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Old 10-21-2024, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
It’s a wonky procedure for sure. I don’t remember this being a “limitation” when I did my first lap on the 320 back around 2010. Anyone know if this is an Airbus thing or just a Delta tech-cedure?

My simple litmus test is, am I or the pax getting hot? Yes? Turn it on even if I can’t get a 100% verification on the hose.

At our earliest opportunity I will then confirm but sometimes that’s not easily feasible if the jetway is backed up and ops isn’t answering the radio. If it were pushing air properly we probably wouldn’t be having a temp issue anyways, so it’s unlikely we have dueling air sources.

I’m not saying ignore the book but use common sense, make a decision and then move on with your day. Don’t sit there and let 200 people sweat.

I do try to give it 3 minutes on a cold APU to avoid the dirty socks thing, but that’s a different topic.
Allegedly it’s to prevent damage to the flapper valve.

Of course I’ve never heard of such valve ever being damaged so I truly don’t worry about it.
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Old 10-21-2024, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DryClutch
There is, but no one seems to abide by it, pilots or MX.
Stand corrected, found it.
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Old 10-21-2024, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
My technique when I get to the plane is start the APU, do the walk around immediately and punch the OFF button on the PCA panel when I'm done. Get back to the cockpit, bleed and packs ON. Works good.
Bad technique to do a walk around with the APU running if at all avoidable.
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Old 10-21-2024, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Ok, help me out here..... What is up with ATL crews and starting the APU?!?! How do I know it was ATL - the cappie announced it I his welcome aboard PA.

Sitting on a full 757, ~7 min prior to push the air starts... Finally.......The ground crew had disconnected the jet way air at least 15 prior to that. The FAs were begging for air. It was very much not a comfortable environment on the plane.

What gives? Seems it's always a preponderance of ATL folks doing this.
I have seen it a lot, too. There also seems to be a lack of understanding about how even if the OAT is 50 degrees but the sun is shining in the middle of the day, that the cabin will still get uncomfortably hot. There really is no excuse for a cabin to have stagnant airflow, regardless of the OAT.
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Old 10-21-2024, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TALPAtalker
I have seen it a lot, too. There also seems to be a lack of understanding about how even if the OAT is 50 degrees but the sun is shining in the middle of the day, that the cabin will still get uncomfortably hot. There really is no excuse for a cabin to have stagnant airflow, regardless of the OAT.
If it’s cool outside I ask the flight attendants how the cabin feels and go from there then as close to when passengers come down the jet bridge I start the APU. Even if it’s comfortable outside once you put 200 people in a confined space it gets hot quick. If it’s warm out, I start it immediately upon getting to the jet. I also tell the FO that I have no ego issues about the APU. If they think it needs to be on they have full authority to do that. If there’s a reason I don’t want it on, I’ll tell them ahead of time.
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Old 10-21-2024, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Bad technique to do a walk around with the APU running if at all avoidable.
Probably why I'm going deaf in my mid 30s...
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Old 10-21-2024, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ancman
The slowest rampers out of all of our hubs take the time to write pilots up? That’s funny.
"Hello ops? Stop the boarding, deplane all passengers, the airplane is too hot. Instruct the ground crew to turn off the GCA immediately. We'll need an addtional 15 minutes to cool the aircraft. Maybe 20. Both the pilots and flight attendants are about to time out though. Better hurry.

Give the ground crew my best as I go to the hotel while they unload all the bags and put them on another airplane."

Prediction: No pilot will ever receive a call from the CPO for pressing the GCA "off" button wihout training for a two position switch.

There's hierarchy in business for a reason.
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Old 10-21-2024, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Probably why I'm going deaf in my mid 30s...
But totally worth it in Alaska or the Midwest in mid January.
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Old 10-21-2024, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Bad technique to do a walk around with the APU running if at all avoidable.
why is that?
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Old 10-22-2024, 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Bad technique to do a walk around with the APU running if at all avoidable.
On the Airbus? Yea the packs are noisey, but the APU is sky high up there and to me fairly quiet. I also damaged my hearing via turboprop and poor headsets so theres that.
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