Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
04-11-2022, 08:57 AM
#51
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Bids close on the 11th. They must be posted in icrew by the 17th. The CA awards are run first and normally come out anywhere from the 13th-15th. FO awards normally come out on the 15th or 16th.
04-11-2022, 09:00 AM
#52
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04-11-2022, 06:53 PM
#53
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Position: 73NB
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In general you want to put in most/all of your avoid pairings before you start with the award pairings. This will ensure that PBS starts putting things on your line that you actually want. And you want to order your avoids from highest priority to lowest priority, so that if it goes into denial mode your least important avoids will be ignored first.
For example. you absolutely cannot commute in before 9AM, but you'd still like trips that report later in the day. You'd structure it something like this:
Avoid pairings if pairing check in time before 9 AM
Avoid pairings if pairing check in time before 1 PM
Avoid pairings if pairing check in time before 5 PM
Award pairings
This way if it can build you a schedule with trips that all report after 5 PM, great, it will. But if it doesn't have enough trips then it will deny your 5 PM request and then try to pull from trips that only report after 1 PM, and again if it can't do that it'll fall back to the 9 AM.
For example. you absolutely cannot commute in before 9AM, but you'd still like trips that report later in the day. You'd structure it something like this:
Avoid pairings if pairing check in time before 9 AM
Avoid pairings if pairing check in time before 1 PM
Avoid pairings if pairing check in time before 5 PM
Award pairings
This way if it can build you a schedule with trips that all report after 5 PM, great, it will. But if it doesn't have enough trips then it will deny your 5 PM request and then try to pull from trips that only report after 1 PM, and again if it can't do that it'll fall back to the 9 AM.
04-12-2022, 12:51 PM
#54
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Thank you. That helps.
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04-12-2022, 12:52 PM
#55
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Thank you. I appreciate that.
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04-13-2022, 03:04 PM
#56
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Hello! Just wondering, I've noticed in some interview groups there are usually 17 out of 22 CJOs awarded and sometimes a big one like 20 out of 22 applicants.
May I know what's usually the case as to why the 3-5 out of 22 didn't get the CJOs during the interview?
I have read that when you get the interview they want to hire you and it's yours to lose.
What makes an applicant not get the job? Is it the logbook? The TMAATS or WWYD?
Does anyone have any insider notes regarding this or maybe some pattern as to why they didn't get the job
May I know what's usually the case as to why the 3-5 out of 22 didn't get the CJOs during the interview?
I have read that when you get the interview they want to hire you and it's yours to lose.
What makes an applicant not get the job? Is it the logbook? The TMAATS or WWYD?
Does anyone have any insider notes regarding this or maybe some pattern as to why they didn't get the job
04-13-2022, 05:56 PM
#57
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Joined APC: Jul 2018
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The interviewers at Delta score each of your answers for every question. I believe the scale is 1-5, 5 being the best. Your answers need to cover certain elements in order to get the highest possible score. At the end, they tally up your grade for each question and see where you end up.
The reason people don’t get the CJO despite being called in for an interview is simply because they did not score high enough during the interview.
In the past, the interview consisted of a cognitive testing portion, a job knowledge test, and a panel interview. Your interview score may or may not have been a combination of those three elements. It may have just been that you needed to score above the cutoff for each element, and that there was no combining of the element scores. Not sure if anyone not in the hiring department really knows for sure.
The interview process is different now, so only the panel interview really matters on interview day.
The reason people don’t get the CJO despite being called in for an interview is simply because they did not score high enough during the interview.
In the past, the interview consisted of a cognitive testing portion, a job knowledge test, and a panel interview. Your interview score may or may not have been a combination of those three elements. It may have just been that you needed to score above the cutoff for each element, and that there was no combining of the element scores. Not sure if anyone not in the hiring department really knows for sure.
The interview process is different now, so only the panel interview really matters on interview day.
04-13-2022, 06:08 PM
#58
Roll’n Thunder
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Position: Pilot
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Hello! Just wondering, I've noticed in some interview groups there are usually 17 out of 22 CJOs awarded and sometimes a big one like 20 out of 22 applicants.
May I know what's usually the case as to why the 3-5 out of 22 didn't get the CJOs during the interview?
I have read that when you get the interview they want to hire you and it's yours to lose.
What makes an applicant not get the job? Is it the logbook? The TMAATS or WWYD?
Does anyone have any insider notes regarding this or maybe some pattern as to why they didn't get the job
May I know what's usually the case as to why the 3-5 out of 22 didn't get the CJOs during the interview?
I have read that when you get the interview they want to hire you and it's yours to lose.
What makes an applicant not get the job? Is it the logbook? The TMAATS or WWYD?
Does anyone have any insider notes regarding this or maybe some pattern as to why they didn't get the job
04-13-2022, 06:40 PM
#59
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Joined APC: Nov 2020
Position: Enoch Powell Enthusiast
Posts: 2,280
Hello! Just wondering, I've noticed in some interview groups there are usually 17 out of 22 CJOs awarded and sometimes a big one like 20 out of 22 applicants.
May I know what's usually the case as to why the 3-5 out of 22 didn't get the CJOs during the interview?
I have read that when you get the interview they want to hire you and it's yours to lose.
What makes an applicant not get the job? Is it the logbook? The TMAATS or WWYD?
Does anyone have any insider notes regarding this or maybe some pattern as to why they didn't get the job
May I know what's usually the case as to why the 3-5 out of 22 didn't get the CJOs during the interview?
I have read that when you get the interview they want to hire you and it's yours to lose.
What makes an applicant not get the job? Is it the logbook? The TMAATS or WWYD?
Does anyone have any insider notes regarding this or maybe some pattern as to why they didn't get the job
Interviewing is a learned skill.
There is little, if any, correlation between the two.
Pay a prep company, put in the work on how to interview, treat it like it's a check ride you only get one shot at, and you'll do fine.
04-13-2022, 07:33 PM
#60
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Joined APC: Mar 2022
Posts: 235
I’m a new hire and wanting to get some info on what to expect when I get there. I’ve used the search function over the last several hours and haven’t been able to find anything yet.
A few questions and I welcome any reference anyone has on additional info. Thanks in advance. Maybe a sticky that highlights all these kinds of questions?
The wife is asking lots of questions that I don’t have answers to. 😂😂
- Do all the medical type benefits start right away?
- Is the hotel provided now? I though at one point it wasn’t….
- Is the entire uniform provided? How many pieces of each? I have a few shirts left over from the current gig, not sure if I should just trash them.
- Are the iPads provided at no cost?
- Any other helpful info would be appreciated.
Thanks
A few questions and I welcome any reference anyone has on additional info. Thanks in advance. Maybe a sticky that highlights all these kinds of questions?
The wife is asking lots of questions that I don’t have answers to. 😂😂
- Do all the medical type benefits start right away?
- Is the hotel provided now? I though at one point it wasn’t….
- Is the entire uniform provided? How many pieces of each? I have a few shirts left over from the current gig, not sure if I should just trash them.
- Are the iPads provided at no cost?
- Any other helpful info would be appreciated.
Thanks
You start receiving training pay day 1 of indoc. It’s like $5200/month gross. Net is about $2k every 2 weeks after taxes, medical, etc. You don’t switch to first year pay until you finish OE or 30 days after sim checkride (44X) if your OE is backed up. Plan for 4-5 months on training pay. 9 weeks from indoc to sims is common right now. Your first paycheck after switching off training pay is probably close to $0 as well because reasons. Once you get access to deltanet, search New Hire Expanded Guide. 40 pages of gouge.
You, wife, kids, and your parents (and step parents if applicable) are eligible for non-rev travel benefits day 1.
Bunch of online training you need to do during indoc. Start it as soon as possible because it’s a lot and you don’t wanna be doing it while you’re home for the weekend.
Last day of indoc includes a dinner event wings ceremony and you get a +1.
Bid the 220. My friends are on it. Their trips/schedules are way better. On deltanet, look for Rotation Construction Dashboard. Has some summary statistics on different fleets. Also check the bids packs on the scheduling tab.
Check out widgetseniority.com It’s free for a certain time period for new hires then a nominal charge after that. Answers a lot of questions about juniority of different equipment and bases before you have to do your initial bid.
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