Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
#5601
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All a green house for plants does is allow the plants and other surfaces to absorb the heat from the sun (light energy). We typically use darker floor coverings/brick/grave; darker soils etc in our green houses to facilitate this purpose. CO2 doesn't enter the equation but is used to promote more rapid growth when required.
Beacasue the green house is enclosed the heat is not able to escape out of the containment (glass or plastic depending on the application) becasue heat energy is at a different wavelength than light energy. Some heat does escape thru lack of proper sealing but that is only a factor in colder climate where additional supplemental heating may be required from conventional heaters. We use circulating fans to continually bring in fresh air from the outside. We supplement the house with CO2 when required. Fans that bring in the outside air also provide a supply of CO2 - for the plants - but to get quicker growth, supplemental CO2 is sometimes required.
Beacasue the green house is enclosed the heat is not able to escape out of the containment (glass or plastic depending on the application) becasue heat energy is at a different wavelength than light energy. Some heat does escape thru lack of proper sealing but that is only a factor in colder climate where additional supplemental heating may be required from conventional heaters. We use circulating fans to continually bring in fresh air from the outside. We supplement the house with CO2 when required. Fans that bring in the outside air also provide a supply of CO2 - for the plants - but to get quicker growth, supplemental CO2 is sometimes required.
You're missing the point. No one, not one person, is claiming you use co2 to give light to your plants. In fact, you make my point for me when you say; "Beacasue the green house is enclosed the heat is not able to escape out of the containment." That is called the greenhouse effect. In your example it's the glass reflecting the heat energy back into the structure and isn't able to escape. This is what CO2 does in the atmosphere. It acts similar to the glass of your greenhouse and creates an atmospheric "greenhouse effect.".
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Right, but I have no way to know if I was the most senior Pilot who missed out on this trip so scheduling can tell me anything. I was looking more for DALPA assistance on this. I will call scheduling but what is the preferred union course of action - Is the Scheduling ticket system appropriate or how about the crew assist Pay issues?
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I figured it out. OOBGS go to instructors first even when junior to us out of base line swine. Confusing because they all use the same "H" code, Oh well you win some you lose some. Learn something new everyday.
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Right, but I have no way to know if I was the most senior Pilot who missed out on this trip so scheduling can tell me anything. I was looking more for DALPA assistance on this. I will call scheduling but what is the preferred union course of action - Is the Scheduling ticket system appropriate or how about the crew assist Pay issues?
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2) File case in crew assist
3) CPO
4) STS
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23.N.20 and 23.O.14 -- normal Greenslips--code G
23.N.21 and 23.O.15 - Instructor Greenslips - code H
23.N.22 and 23.O.16 - Out of Base GS - also code H
There is no such thing as an "Out of Base Instructor"--just instructor. In fact don't instructors get to choose the base they fly out of during their fly months, and that can change with each fly month? Therefore when you stated "OOBGS go to instructors first even when junior to us line swine" that was not technically correct. The instructor was awarded the GS in one earlier step of trip coverage before it ever even reached the Out of Base step.
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You are mostly correct, but the language you used is adding to some of the confusion (and the company makes things worse using the samecode--"H"--for two different steps of trip coverage).
23.N.20 and 23.O.14 -- normal Greenslips--code G
23.N.21 and 23.O.15 - Instructor Greenslips - code H
23.N.22 and 23.O.16 - Out of Base GS - also code H
There is no such thing as an "Out of Base Instructor"--just instructor. In fact don't instructors get to choose the base they fly out of during their fly months, and that can change with each fly month? Therefore when you stated "OOBGS go to instructors first even when junior to us line swine" that was not technically correct. The instructor was awarded the GS in one earlier step of trip coverage before it ever even reached the Out of Base step.
23.N.20 and 23.O.14 -- normal Greenslips--code G
23.N.21 and 23.O.15 - Instructor Greenslips - code H
23.N.22 and 23.O.16 - Out of Base GS - also code H
There is no such thing as an "Out of Base Instructor"--just instructor. In fact don't instructors get to choose the base they fly out of during their fly months, and that can change with each fly month? Therefore when you stated "OOBGS go to instructors first even when junior to us line swine" that was not technically correct. The instructor was awarded the GS in one earlier step of trip coverage before it ever even reached the Out of Base step.
Yes - This is exactly the situation said much better than I did previously. What confused me is the Instructor had a different base listed than the GS award so it kind of was OOB.
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Surely there's a better way! (a different code for instructor GS would be a good start)
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