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Old 05-20-2024, 02:28 PM
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I find it telling that the one question from the comments that the moderator did not pose in today’s SkyHub Town Hall was this issue…. and it was asked twice….
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Old 05-20-2024, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Snapdragon
Can confirm that this is happening. I used a bunch of banked PB days to capitalize on a good deal day trip in March. The first week of April I went to look at my March time card to calculate what the 15th check would look like, and half of the days were missing. There was a note about a pb day audit being done on my March schedule, but no one even had the courtesy to let me know they were manipulating my pay.

Needless to say I was (and still am) irate. I immediately fired off a pay inquiry and was basically told to pound sand. It has since benn escalated jointly to the CPO and LEC. The CPO said they would get back to me soon. That was 3 weeks ago. Interestingly, my pay has not been deducted yet, so I have no idea where it stands. Will report back with any updates.
That is absolutely outrageous. Hopefully ALPA gets on top of this ASAP. Keep us posted.
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Old 05-20-2024, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Snapdragon
Can confirm that this is happening. …. Needless to say I was (and still am) irate.

…Will report back with any updates.
How is that even legal, to go back a retroactively change policy via an unannounced “audit”??? Unbelievable.

Either some upper-middle manager has gone rogue, or there is a concerted effort by those at the top. Regardless, it’s unacceptable.

I’ve heard from several Reps they are aware and discussing it at the MEC meeting this week. If they haven’t come out with some form of Comm by the weekend, I hope the pilots grab their pitchforks.

Please shout the resolution from the mountain tops.
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Old 05-20-2024, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
What is PR? Just trying to wrap my head around what’s going on as someone who has never had a PB day.

Partial Reserve? Am I right?
GS on reserve math. If you fly a GS all on x days, you get 9 hours free from duty THEN you get 24 hours off for each x day interrupted. So, if you end your trip after 1500, let's say 1700, you get 9 hours free. That puts you at 0200 then 24 hours off for each x day until 0200. So on your next LC days, your LC obligation would start at 0200. It would show up as (let's call it a 2 day GS) two PB days and a PR day (from 0000-0200). If you have no more LC days, and since the program can't do partial payback days they would deposit 3 PB days in your bank. Otherwise, they'd be getting a discount if you fly a GS on x days after fulfilling your LC obligation for the month..
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Old 05-20-2024, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
How is that even legal, to go back a retroactively change policy via an unannounced “audit”??? Unbelievable.

Either some upper-middle manager has gone rogue, or there is a concerted effort by those at the top. Regardless, it’s unacceptable.

I’ve heard from several Reps they are aware and discussing it at the MEC meeting this week. If they haven’t come out with some form of Comm by the weekend, I hope the pilots grab their pitchforks.

Please shout the resolution from the mountain tops.
Which reps? Some reps I’ve talked to seemed to have (unbelievably) downplayed this threat .

Agree though, if we don’t get anything strong in our emails, grab your pitchforks. Or we get “we strongly condemn” fluff emails, get your pitchforks.
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Old 05-20-2024, 03:23 PM
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Which reps? Some reps I’ve talked to seemed to have (unbelievably) downplayed this threat .

Agree though, if we don’t get anything strong in our emails, grab your pitchforks. Or we get “we strongly condemn” fluff emails, get your pitchforks.
Standing scheduling committee chairman on one of the pages said they've identified the problem with a manager and it has been fixed.
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Old 05-20-2024, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper25
Which reps? Some reps I’ve talked to seemed to have (unbelievably) downplayed this threat .

Agree though, if we don’t get anything strong in our emails, grab your pitchforks. Or we get “we strongly condemn” fluff emails, get your pitchforks.
C44?

Any reps who downplay this threat are themselves a threat.
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Old 05-20-2024, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper25
Which reps? Some reps I’ve talked to seemed to have (unbelievably) downplayed this threat .

Agree though, if we don’t get anything strong in our emails, grab your pitchforks. Or we get “we strongly condemn” fluff emails, get your pitchforks.
leave your hats at home
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Old 05-20-2024, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
leave your hats at home
That's the spirit!!!

No galley PAs.

Stop pushing wheel chairs and helping with bags. Not your job.

The company will toss you to the curb in a heartbeat.

It's clear they are moving in some direction, and that direction is not towards us. Fine. Two can play this game.
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
That's the spirit!!!

No galley PAs.

Stop pushing wheel chairs and helping with bags. Not your job.

The company will toss you to the curb in a heartbeat.

It's clear they are moving in some direction, and that direction is not towards us. Fine. Two can play this game.
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