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Old 04-10-2022, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I understand the logic here. But what I'm trying to do is avoid early reports or redeyes except for a specific airport.

You either need to have the award line for those trips above the avoid lines, or change the avoid lines to include “if not layover in xyz”
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Old 04-10-2022, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
In general you want to put in most/all of your avoid pairings before you start with the award pairings. This will ensure that PBS starts putting things on your line that you actually want. And you want to order your avoids from highest priority to lowest priority, so that if it goes into denial mode your least important avoids will be ignored first.

For example. you absolutely cannot commute in before 9AM, but you'd still like trips that report later in the day. You'd structure it something like this:

Avoid pairings if pairing check in time before 9 AM
Avoid pairings if pairing check in time before 1 PM
Avoid pairings if pairing check in time before 5 PM
Award pairings

This way if it can build you a schedule with trips that all report after 5 PM, great, it will. But if it doesn't have enough trips then it will deny your 5 PM request and then try to pull from trips that only report after 1 PM, and again if it can't do that it'll fall back to the 9 AM.
The one flaw to be careful about is trips that begin or end with a DH. You might see a trip that begins with a DH to where you live which is perfect for you. If you want that trip it needs to go above the avoids to insure it does not get blocked by the DH report time. The same applies on back end DH’s regarding days off. You might need the 5th off and put that into PBS. A great trip that has only a deadhead on the 5th where you can easily get home on the 4th is available. It must go above the request for the 5th off. I have cost myself good trips that way.
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Old 04-10-2022, 04:51 AM
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How many of these trips are there that you want above your avoids? If it’s just a few, I’d bid them specifically by pairing number.

Award pairing if pairing number xxxx, xxxx, xxxx
Avoid pairings if they suck

By bidding them specifically, it can sometimes take a trip from a senior bidder who didn’t specifically call out the pairing number, as long as the pool has another pairing that would equally satisfy that persons bid line. You can yoink some trips that way. No super practical if there’s a ton of them unless you like sitting in front of PBS all day.
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Old 04-10-2022, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by neodd
How many of these trips are there that you want above your avoids? If it’s just a few, I’d bid them specifically by pairing number.

Award pairing if pairing number xxxx, xxxx, xxxx
Avoid pairings if they suck

By bidding them specifically, it can sometimes take a trip from a senior bidder who didn’t specifically call out the pairing number, as long as the pool has another pairing that would equally satisfy that persons bid line. You can yoink some trips that way. No super practical if there’s a ton of them unless you like sitting in front of PBS all day.
This is the way.
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Old 04-10-2022, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by neodd
How many of these trips are there that you want above your avoids? If it’s just a few, I’d bid them specifically by pairing number.

Award pairing if pairing number xxxx, xxxx, xxxx
Avoid pairings if they suck

By bidding them specifically, it can sometimes take a trip from a senior bidder who didn’t specifically call out the pairing number, as long as the pool has another pairing that would equally satisfy that persons bid line. You can yoink some trips that way. No super practical if there’s a ton of them unless you like sitting in front of PBS all day.
Many props for the use of yoink.

Also, good advice.
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Old 04-10-2022, 08:42 AM
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Else start yoink
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Old 04-10-2022, 05:01 PM
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I’m a new hire and wanting to get some info on what to expect when I get there. I’ve used the search function over the last several hours and haven’t been able to find anything yet.
A few questions and I welcome any reference anyone has on additional info. Thanks in advance. Maybe a sticky that highlights all these kinds of questions?
The wife is asking lots of questions that I don’t have answers to. 😂😂
- Do all the medical type benefits start right away?
- Is the hotel provided now? I though at one point it wasn’t….
- Is the entire uniform provided? How many pieces of each? I have a few shirts left over from the current gig, not sure if I should just trash them.
- Are the iPads provided at no cost?
- Any other helpful info would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Old 04-11-2022, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ThebigDream
I’m a new hire and wanting to get some info on what to expect when I get there. I’ve used the search function over the last several hours and haven’t been able to find anything yet.
A few questions and I welcome any reference anyone has on additional info. Thanks in advance. Maybe a sticky that highlights all these kinds of questions?
The wife is asking lots of questions that I don’t have answers to. 😂😂
- Do all the medical type benefits start right away?
- Is the hotel provided now? I though at one point it wasn’t….
- Is the entire uniform provided? How many pieces of each? I have a few shirts left over from the current gig, not sure if I should just trash them.
- Are the iPads provided at no cost?
- Any other helpful info would be appreciated.
Thanks
1. Medical coverage starts day 1 of indoc
2. Hotels provided for all training regardless of location
3. No uniforms provided
4. ipads are free of charge and can be loaded with your own personal Apple ID and apps along with the company apps
5. Welcome to Delta!
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Old 04-11-2022, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ThebigDream
I’m a new hire and wanting to get some info on what to expect when I get there. I’ve used the search function over the last several hours and haven’t been able to find anything yet.
A few questions and I welcome any reference anyone has on additional info. Thanks in advance. Maybe a sticky that highlights all these kinds of questions?
The wife is asking lots of questions that I don’t have answers to. 😂😂
- Do all the medical type benefits start right away?
- Is the hotel provided now? I though at one point it wasn’t….
- Is the entire uniform provided? How many pieces of each? I have a few shirts left over from the current gig, not sure if I should just trash them.
- Are the iPads provided at no cost?
- Any other helpful info would be appreciated.
Thanks
Originally Posted by tennisguru
1. Medical coverage starts day 1 of indoc
2. Hotels provided for all training regardless of location
3. No uniforms provided
4. ipads are free of charge and can be loaded with your own personal Apple ID and apps along with the company apps
5. Welcome to Delta!
Tennis, you are wrong on #3

Starting back on Nov 1st 2021 Delta provides jacket, two pairs of pants, a hat, epaulets, a tie and two shirts. For any pilot with a hire date on or after March 16, 2020, they received a retroactive payment of $480 to cover.
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Old 04-11-2022, 08:52 AM
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How early in the month do you usually know your schedule for the next month?
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