Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
03-25-2024, 02:57 PM
#4881
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Joined APC: Jul 2023
Posts: 208
You can see it as banking time flown or the sick time. It's all the same yet the sick time doesn't cost me any of my own time. You are hung up on your label so I'm done. Good luck. BTW, It benefits me greatly but probably won't work for you because... reasons. Now that I said the technique out loud let's see if management tries to curb sick credit. The next negotiation will be key to get your "PTO." What do you think management will want for a quid? More "good deal" shout downs for other good deals is kinda like moving money from one pocket to the other such as PS forfeit for a "raise."
Most pilots here get more than 200 hours of sick time a year, and most probably only use a fraction of it. We should have more ability to use our contractual benefit without having to lie to get it.
03-25-2024, 03:45 PM
#4882
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,016
I didn't use my label at all in that response, and I never said that your method doesn't work for you either. I said that you're not recovering sick credit, you're just working more and deferring the pay. That's not right or wrong, it just is what it is.
Most pilots here get more than 200 hours of sick time a year, and most probably only use a fraction of it. We should have more ability to use our contractual benefit without having to lie to get it.
Most pilots here get more than 200 hours of sick time a year, and most probably only use a fraction of it. We should have more ability to use our contractual benefit without having to lie to get it.
03-25-2024, 04:05 PM
#4883
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It also doesn't have to be the entire sick bank. Make it 150 of only sick time and 70 hours of PTO or sick. Something like that.
03-25-2024, 04:15 PM
#4884
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 891
it’s kind of interesting to think about. 330 captain with 3 years left or so and 270 hours of sick. Thats essentially more than one trip a month. Call up your doctor and have the note ready to go every month. What recourse would the CPO/company have to prevent this? What would said captain really have to lose? All parties would know what’s going on. I’m sure it happens all the time. Curious how the back and forth goes with said captain and the CPO.
03-25-2024, 04:26 PM
#4885
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it’s kind of interesting to think about. 330 captain with 3 years left or so and 270 hours of sick. Thats essentially more than one trip a month. Call up your doctor and have the note ready to go every month. What recourse would the CPO/company have to prevent this? What would said captain really have to lose? All parties would know what’s going on. I’m sure it happens all the time. Curious how the back and forth goes with said captain and the CPO.
03-25-2024, 05:14 PM
#4886
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,159
The only actual advantages you listed are using it to get over the GS trigger, and collecting at a higher pay rate. All the other stuff is just getting paid later for work you already did, and giving the company an interest free loan on it (unless you take it at a higher rate)
03-25-2024, 05:15 PM
#4887
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 777
This is the differene between a pilot union and a no-**** trade union. Do you think UAW members are out accusing each other of lying about sick time?
But to some pilots, they're "special" blue collar labor, in their own minds. A certain percentage thinks that due to their education level, they are somehow part managment and need to think like managment.
It's absolutely mind-boggling to me that we have pilots here going out of their way to let managment off the hook, and point the finger at other pilots.
03-25-2024, 05:33 PM
#4888
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03-25-2024, 05:53 PM
#4890
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,238
We definitely do need to rein in this GFB stuff in the next contract. I don't know of any other major airline that does this especially with this kind of frequency. I was sick the other day and honestly hesitated to call in sick because I was thinking about how annoying going to the doctor would be if I did get a GFB. I still ended up calling out, but the fact it was even in my head means that their intimidation tactics are working.
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