170Till5

This would have qualified for FMLA and your sick bank (edit: might have) been qualified to use. Why does no one here at Delta talk about FMLA? A federal protection. Have to be at a company for 1 year though. It allows you to take care of family members who are sick, child with diabetes, someone with cancer, etc.. I believe it draws from your sick bank - previous airline I worked for it did and I’m pretty sure the FA’s at Delta it does too.

also short term disability and DPMA could have kicked in to help with the bills depending how long you’re out.

Nick Bradshaw

Are you sure that your sick bank can be used for FMLA? FMLA is usually unpaid leave.

170Till5

my last airline it did and it does for the FA’s (pretty sure). You just have to submit your FMLA and it gets approved or denied - it’s a whole application process. I’m assuming it would at Delta for the pilots, haven’t looked into it / heard from it though from any pilots here.

Also if you’re NYC based or LA based there are other protections you have for taking care of sick family members that.

Khantahr

Using vacation time robs from your actual vacation, and requires you to put vacation where you may not want it in order to scavenge from it.

Banking is just deferring your pay until a later date. There are advantages to doing this, but it is in no way a substitute for sick/vacation/PTO.

Using sick time means you have to call in sick.

None of this is PTO like has been proposed here.

Nick Bradshaw

Except that you can only use sick pay for things already on your schedule. You don't get pay/credit for calling in sick on off days. So it would be a wash.

Are you saying you white slip trips up to the ALV+15 limit, bang out for them, and then bank the profit and use it later?

And people wonder why we're getting GFB calls for legitimately being sick.

notEnuf

You accusing me of something? You have no imagination, critical thinking skills, or contract knowledge. If I use 75 hours of sick time a year that is credit that can be recovered. What is PTO? Paid Time Off. This is exactly the the scenario I described, and no it is not labeled PTO but the effect is the same. When I have a 4 day trip that I call in sick for that's 22 hours pay and credit. If I credit 80 hours other than that in the month, then I can bank 22 hours. How to get that credit? Credit surf, white slip, swap with the pot etc. People ask for help and explanation and then bash... to be expected, it's the internet. You do you, I'll do me, we all know who's getting the time off they want WITH pay.

You are calling in sick on days off??? You already have the day off WTF? I am so confused by your logic (lack of) it hurts.

Khantahr

PTO as most people define it does not diminish your vacation time, nor does it require saying you're sick. Your methods, while they work, do not achieve that.

m3113n1a1

Dude that is not PTO. In your scenario you're working extra above your sick call to bank time to pay yourself back for taking time off later on. That's just the equivalent of saving up and taking unpaid leave.

notEnuf

I guess I can't convince you. Did nobody see where I said it wasn't PTO in the conventional sense but the result is the same? Oh well, I tried. The effect is the same and the extra credit time came from a source that was not me working extra. You can choose to waste that credit but I choose to recover it. Every time I try to help, the internet instead benefitting, ignores the requested advice and argues. Some will see the light, others... no. Continue to argue for a bennefit that will never be achieved but already exists all because you don't like the label.

interceptorpilo

But why bank it? Why not just get paid for it that month?