Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
03-23-2024, 11:59 AM
#4801
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Joined APC: Feb 2022
Posts: 658
just have something for FMLA and no sick calls are questioned and no doctors note required. A lot of people use FMLA. Shout out Obama
03-23-2024, 12:02 PM
#4802
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Joined APC: Jul 2022
Posts: 930
How do you know what I saw? No context? It was the ALPA guy who tracked it on whatever committee who provided the context while sitting 3 feet behind me on a long flight. Management was nowhere to be seen - it was an ALPA product.
A simple plot with 365 segments of “# pilots on sick per day”. Sure there could be ‘factors’ within that simple data, but when every single peak, several orders of magnitude high above an otherwise flat baseline, is 100% correlated to a holiday, Valentine’s Day, Super Bowl, and May, a 6 year old can grasp the bigger picture in one glance.
Look, ALPA has its faults, and needs to be taken with a grain of salt a times, ok? But you are sticking your head in the sand if you just wave all this away.
I’m done. Believe what you want.
A simple plot with 365 segments of “# pilots on sick per day”. Sure there could be ‘factors’ within that simple data, but when every single peak, several orders of magnitude high above an otherwise flat baseline, is 100% correlated to a holiday, Valentine’s Day, Super Bowl, and May, a 6 year old can grasp the bigger picture in one glance.
Look, ALPA has its faults, and needs to be taken with a grain of salt a times, ok? But you are sticking your head in the sand if you just wave all this away.
I’m done. Believe what you want.
03-23-2024, 12:07 PM
#4803
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Joined APC: Oct 2023
Posts: 161
How do you know what I saw? No context? It was the ALPA guy who tracked it on whatever committee who provided the context while sitting 3 feet behind me on a long flight. Management was nowhere to be seen - it was an ALPA product.
A simple plot with 365 segments of “# pilots on sick per day”. Sure there could be ‘factors’ within that simple data, but when every single peak, several orders of magnitude high above an otherwise flat baseline, is 100% correlated to a holiday, Valentine’s Day, Super Bowl, and May, a 6 year old can grasp the bigger picture in one glance.
Look, ALPA has its faults, and needs to be taken with a grain of salt a times, ok? But you are sticking your head in the sand if you just wave all this away.
I’m done. Believe what you want.
A simple plot with 365 segments of “# pilots on sick per day”. Sure there could be ‘factors’ within that simple data, but when every single peak, several orders of magnitude high above an otherwise flat baseline, is 100% correlated to a holiday, Valentine’s Day, Super Bowl, and May, a 6 year old can grasp the bigger picture in one glance.
Look, ALPA has its faults, and needs to be taken with a grain of salt a times, ok? But you are sticking your head in the sand if you just wave all this away.
I’m done. Believe what you want.
03-23-2024, 12:19 PM
#4804
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 364
I had a convesation with a NO voting LEC rep going into 2015 TA1. The rep stated a very similiar stance that we had SOME pilots using sick leave right up to 270 hours and probaly abusing the system. Before you get upset, this rep was pilot advocate and not a friend of the CPO or management. Some examples of the possible abuse where pilots white slipping trips to get them within less than an hour of 270 hours of sick time, on a yearly basis. You can choose to believe what you want but I took this rep at their word.
03-23-2024, 12:53 PM
#4805
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Posts: 776
Until now, I thought you were generally a pilot advocate. A bit of a know-it-all with a thin skin, but at least a pilot advocate. Not any more.
03-23-2024, 12:57 PM
#4806
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03-23-2024, 01:57 PM
#4807
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Posts: 208
Make it subject to coverage, put blackout dates, fine. I want it for things like, say a friend's mom died and I want to be there for them, or my house needs a repair that I can only schedule when I have a trip, etc. Right now your only options are to drop and not get paid, burn an IVD(s) and mostly not get paid (and lose a day[s] of your vacation), or lie and say you're sick.
03-23-2024, 02:34 PM
#4808
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PTO isn't vacation. IVDs come off of your vacation weeks, and only pay 4:15 each. A hypothetical PTO drop would come out of your sick bank, or even a completely new and seperate bank, and pay the value of the trip.
Make it subject to coverage, put blackout dates, fine. I want it for things like, say a friend's mom died and I want to be there for them, or my house needs a repair that I can only schedule when I have a trip, etc. Right now your only options are to drop and not get paid, burn an IVD(s) and mostly not get paid (and lose a day of your vacation), or lie and say you're sick.
Make it subject to coverage, put blackout dates, fine. I want it for things like, say a friend's mom died and I want to be there for them, or my house needs a repair that I can only schedule when I have a trip, etc. Right now your only options are to drop and not get paid, burn an IVD(s) and mostly not get paid (and lose a day of your vacation), or lie and say you're sick.
I understand, but in no case would I be in favor of reducing sick time for PTO with blackout dates.
03-23-2024, 02:40 PM
#4809
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,303
I had a convesation with a NO voting LEC rep going into 2015 TA1. The rep stated a very similiar stance that we had SOME pilots using sick leave right up to 270 hours and probaly abusing the system. Before you get upset, this rep was pilot advocate and not a friend of the CPO or management. Some examples of the possible abuse where pilots white slipping trips to get them within less than an hour of 270 hours of sick time, on a yearly basis. You can choose to believe what you want but I took this rep at their word.
03-23-2024, 02:49 PM
#4810
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 4,812
If calling that, and sick abusers out costs me the “pilot advocate” title in your eyes, then so be it.
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