Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
03-20-2024, 05:50 PM
#4661
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Deleted 160 hour look back rule.
See C2019 Negotiators Notepad 23-09 under “major bone”
03-21-2024, 03:08 AM
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Planetrain has your answer. Also it was a hospital admission, not visit, so it was rarely used. It’s probably likely that anything that gets you admitted to the hospital will also use over 100 hours of sick leave.
03-21-2024, 04:57 AM
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CA Rep in NY argued and won that my collarbone was a "major bone"
Of course this was after a month of UHC denying surgery as it was in 6 peices and started healing way out of shape.
Honest question:
My current schedule shows VERIF:QHCP starting in April. As of now, I have
Sick lookback (prior 12 months) 98:04
Shouldn't I be lookback free to 100 (120 maybe now, don't have tablet nearby) in last 12 bid periods?
03-21-2024, 05:02 AM
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Glad major bone is gone..
CA Rep in NY argued and won that my collarbone was a "major bone"
Of course this was after a month of UHC denying surgery as it was in 6 peices and started healing way out of shape.
Honest question:
My current schedule shows VERIF:QHCP starting in April. As of now, I have
Sick lookback (prior 12 months) 98:04
Shouldn't I be lookback free to 100 (120 maybe now, don't have tablet nearby) in last 12 bid periods?
CA Rep in NY argued and won that my collarbone was a "major bone"
Of course this was after a month of UHC denying surgery as it was in 6 peices and started healing way out of shape.
Honest question:
My current schedule shows VERIF:QHCP starting in April. As of now, I have
Sick lookback (prior 12 months) 98:04
Shouldn't I be lookback free to 100 (120 maybe now, don't have tablet nearby) in last 12 bid periods?
Your lookback shows 98, which I think doesn't include the current month. Did you call in sick this month? Your verification doesn't trigger until the month AFTER you hit 120 hours of lookback. Of course that assumed you don't have hours fall off from 12 months ago.
03-21-2024, 05:08 AM
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Had to call out off a 28 hour OE trip because UMR/CVS took 3 months to approve a new medication after they disapproved the one I've been on for years (SI required) and it's 14 days no fly when you change meds.
Typical UMR.. Put in preauthrization in December because they told me in November I'd no longer be able to get X. Doc puts in m Preauth for Y. UMR tried to push Z on me, (it's on the FAA Prohibited without 6 months trial list, plus I've been on it before and it makes me sick as hell). This goes back and forth for 3 months. So much for switching meds when I was in sims and it didn't matter.
03-21-2024, 05:16 AM
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That explains it.
Had to call out off a 28 hour OE trip because UMR/CVS took 3 months to approve a new medication after they disapproved the one I've been on for years (SI required) and it's 14 days no fly when you change meds.
Typical UMR.. Put in preauthrization in December because they told me in November I'd no longer be able to get X. Doc puts in m Preauth for Y. UMR tried to push Z on me, (it's on the FAA Prohibited without 6 months trial list, plus I've been on it before and it makes me sick as hell). This goes back and forth for 3 months. So much for switching meds when I was in sims and it didn't matter.
Had to call out off a 28 hour OE trip because UMR/CVS took 3 months to approve a new medication after they disapproved the one I've been on for years (SI required) and it's 14 days no fly when you change meds.
Typical UMR.. Put in preauthrization in December because they told me in November I'd no longer be able to get X. Doc puts in m Preauth for Y. UMR tried to push Z on me, (it's on the FAA Prohibited without 6 months trial list, plus I've been on it before and it makes me sick as hell). This goes back and forth for 3 months. So much for switching meds when I was in sims and it didn't matter.
03-21-2024, 05:26 AM
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A very minor caveat and advantage to crewdawg’s answer, you only have to verify a sickness after reaching over 120 hours. You could have a look back of 119.9 hours and go out sick for 21 hours. It’s only the NEXT occurrence that needs verification. In this case you could have used 140.9 hours and not need verification unless you call out sick again.
03-21-2024, 05:34 AM
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A very minor caveat and advantage to crewdawg’s answer, you only have to verify a sickness after reaching over 120 hours. You could have a look back of 119.9 hours and go out sick for 21 hours. It’s only the NEXT occurrence that needs verification. In this case you could have used 140.9 hours and not need verification unless you call out sick again.
I don't think that's correct. I'm fairly certain the verification only trips in the next month. So in your situation, if you were at 119.9 in March. You call out sick for a 21 hour trip on 3Apr, which puts you over 120 hours. You could call in sick for another trip later in the month and still not verify. The verification wouldn't come until the next month, only if you stay above 120 hours via the lookback.
That's what I was told, I could be wrong though.
03-21-2024, 05:38 AM
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Can't use FAA leave for this. When I was waiting on the FAA to adjucate my SI last year I used all 60 days. Have to have enough sick to last 14 days after you have given FAA everything they wanted. Then the 60 days starts.
03-21-2024, 05:40 AM
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I don't think that's correct. I fairly certain the verification only trips in the next month. So in your situation, if you were at 119.9 in March. You call out sick for a 21 hour trip on 3Apr, which puts you over 120 hours. You could call in sick for another trip later in the month and still not verify. The verification wouldn't come until the next month, only if you stay above 120 hours via the lookback.
Pro tip: Make sure you stumble across one of the "GFB" tripwires. Grab a doctor's note and your entire occurance now is excluded from the lookback.
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