NERD

Hate to tell you this, but if/when this passes ICAO will change also. There won't be a forced flush to NB.

Vsop

JB was at least honest yesterday In saying he just likes the job and wants to keep going. I think we can all understand that. I don’t want to group JB and a few other pro 67 posters who I respect with NB.

CX500T

ICAO had studied 60 to 65 for years. US Legislation changed to match.

Don't bank on ICAO changing stuff in a month.

CBreezy

Someone said that the ICAO rules won't change until the member states vote and that wouldn't be for another year.

Nick Bradshaw

Well first of all, unlike 60-65, where most of them stayed, most aren't going to stay to 67. We have a lot of guys out on medical now, way more than before Age 65. So it will have less of an impact. Also, 65 happened when the economy was already backsliding and the airlines had quit hiring, which made the stagnation then worse. There's a crash coming but it won't be 2008 bad. The airlines will still need to hire for growth plans, it will just slow down.

But at the end of the day, I don't care. None of you care that I had a mostly stagnant career and now want a couple extra years to recoup some money and enjoy my job. So tough luck. You'll get my seat when I'm done with it and not before. Then you'll probably get to go to 70 or later, and you'll understand then junior tries to kneecap you someday.

CX500T

Stagnant career... You have said time and time again "juniors" stagnation pre-delta don't count so why should your stagnation pre-2014 count to over half the seniority list?

Also what about the guys who have been brought up multiple times, the 5000ish crowd.. Funny thing I was looking at the seniority list to see who the most junior pre 9/11 hire is
SEN EMP ID NAME CATEGORY HIRE DATE RETIRE DATE
52XX XXXXXX YYYXXXXUUU ATLXXXX 04Sep2001 XXYYY2043

The last pre 9/11 hire is 29 days older than me. I will be here less than a month past a pre 9/11 hire.

Tell me THEY haven't faced stagnation, and will again with 67. Pretty sure they were furloughed, run through the wringer, got "f'ed in the merger" (2008 hires are senior to them) and stagnated with 60 to 65.

But they are the same age as me, so it doens't count I guess. Or they were at another 121 carrier merged into us. So they arent' real (north/south doesn't matter) so they don't count.

m3113n1a1

How long were you furloughed?

Hotel Kilo

Ramen, smahmin (I love Ramen BTW). You need to go find the Iberico ham place. Its the bomb. Its near Shibuya. On the second floor of a non discript building near a train station. One of the best wine lists I've ever seen as well.

Best Ramen - got to travel to Hokkaido. Shinkansen to Aomori then take the express to Hakodate, some of the best you'll ever have. You can do it in a day no problem. Enjoy it with a tasty Sapporo.

Nick Bradshaw

I don't care if you support 67. Pilots won't be allowed to vote.

But I assure you Congress will, and not the way you hope. At least you'll get an extra few years of medical LOA pay. You can thank us later.

Nick Bradshaw

It really aggravates you that I won't engage you on that question doesn't it?

Such a lame debate tactic you guys use to ask inane questions then make a straw man argument that by refusing to answer your question it proves something. Lol. More signs of a failed educational system.