Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
#372
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That wasn't the argument. The arguement being made was, "us pilots are pull yourself by your bootstraps kind of people and are better with money than everyone else (paraphrased).". And I'm saying that in actuality, we are no better but I'd argue even worse than other careers with this level of pay.
#373
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They are also more than an average number who are actually worried about the Estate Tax that starts at more than $12 million. If I were in line to get that kind of a tax free windfall I'd be pulling a new Sk-boat to my lake house behind a stupid-duty 350 with my wife following behind in her Tesla M X.
#374
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OK, settle down JD…..taking a couple guys and playing smartest guy in the room does nothing for your own credibility.
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#376
There's somebody in the GO who is doing the math (and probably updating monthly as people retire) what retro at their offered rate costs vs a bonus costs.
Once they figure a bonus will pay sone number greater than 50% of the voting group more than retro while being cheaper than paying retro to all who worked past the amenable date, they will likely push it harder vs full retro..
Lets just say now, the retro since amenable works out to 12% of 1 years pay (3, 3, 4%)
Median W2 of 200k, 24k x the 15,000 or so is about $360M
Every month the retro goes up. As do the likely to vote for a say 40k signing bonus over retro.
Because they ARE tracking how much retro will cost vs a one time bonus x how many are here.
At some point it will make more financial sense (from the company's viewpoint) to offer a signing bonus that puts more money in the pockets of those here, but costs them less than paying retro to those here plus all who worked past amenable date.
Once they figure a bonus will pay sone number greater than 50% of the voting group more than retro while being cheaper than paying retro to all who worked past the amenable date, they will likely push it harder vs full retro..
Lets just say now, the retro since amenable works out to 12% of 1 years pay (3, 3, 4%)
Median W2 of 200k, 24k x the 15,000 or so is about $360M
Every month the retro goes up. As do the likely to vote for a say 40k signing bonus over retro.
Because they ARE tracking how much retro will cost vs a one time bonus x how many are here.
At some point it will make more financial sense (from the company's viewpoint) to offer a signing bonus that puts more money in the pockets of those here, but costs them less than paying retro to those here plus all who worked past amenable date.
#377
They are also more than an average number who are actually worried about the Estate Tax that starts at more than $12 million. If I were in line to get that kind of a tax free windfall I'd be pulling a new Sk-boat to my lake house behind a stupid-duty 350 with my wife following behind in her Tesla M X.
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“consider something that doesn’t exist”
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I’ll admit in retrospect my using this was a bad way to make my point. But I still think the original point, that pilots as a whole are not bootstrap savers, is accurate. Some are and some are not, but I don’t think we are wildly better than average.
Last edited by Gone Flying; 05-12-2022 at 03:02 PM.
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