Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
12-16-2023, 10:23 AM
#3681
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and please don’t insult me. I don’t insult you, so I’d appreciate the same treatment back.
12-16-2023, 10:29 AM
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Yes, I am.
You said the “definition”. These are from the Oxford dictionary.
Which one looks closer to “doing the same thing over and over expecting different results”?
Practice: perform (an activity) or exercise (a skill) repeatedly or regularly in order to improve or maintain one's proficiency.
Insanity: the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.
You can believe what you want. I was just informing you that your definition of insanity was just something catchy someone said. Not an actual definition. Your definition of insanity is actually closer to the definition of practice.
You said the “definition”. These are from the Oxford dictionary.
Which one looks closer to “doing the same thing over and over expecting different results”?
Practice: perform (an activity) or exercise (a skill) repeatedly or regularly in order to improve or maintain one's proficiency.
Insanity: the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.
You can believe what you want. I was just informing you that your definition of insanity was just something catchy someone said. Not an actual definition. Your definition of insanity is actually closer to the definition of practice.
12-16-2023, 10:42 AM
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I may be wrong here, but weren't we the last major to get holiday pay? I thought AAL, UAL already had it? So in this case we just brought ourselves up to what the others had. You all were also were blurting on here not so long ago that holiday pay would entice more seniors to bid holidays. Is that the case? Was your holiday trip a coverage award? Or did PBS just give it to you in blue? From my seat I don't see us seniors bidding holidays for the pay. Most are still doing what we've been doing for a long time - prefer off over the holidays, then green slip. Juniors are still getting tagged with holiday flying either thru coverage (unstacking) or thru straight PBS award. Now, couple that with higher rates and Bob's your uncle, and it benefits everyone etc etc etc.
12-16-2023, 11:45 AM
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12-16-2023, 11:48 AM
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Yes, I am.
You said the “definition”. These are from the Oxford dictionary.
Which one looks closer to “doing the same thing over and over expecting different results”?
Practice: perform (an activity) or exercise (a skill) repeatedly or regularly in order to improve or maintain one's proficiency.
Insanity: the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.
You can believe what you want. I was just informing you that your definition of insanity was just something catchy someone said. Not an actual definition. Your definition of insanity is actually closer to the definition of practice.
You said the “definition”. These are from the Oxford dictionary.
Which one looks closer to “doing the same thing over and over expecting different results”?
Practice: perform (an activity) or exercise (a skill) repeatedly or regularly in order to improve or maintain one's proficiency.
Insanity: the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness.
You can believe what you want. I was just informing you that your definition of insanity was just something catchy someone said. Not an actual definition. Your definition of insanity is actually closer to the definition of practice.
"Doing something stupid over and over and expecting a different result"
12-16-2023, 12:18 PM
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In several categories YOY (for Thanksgiving, Xmas and NYE) that has indeed been the case, coverage awards for RES and REG have gone more junior. In others it has had little to no effect. I did not look at how senior specifically bidding for those holidays went, but theoretically looking at coverage awards should capture that behavior. It does not surprise me that more senior categories would not exhibit a large change of behavior YOY given that human behavior favors inertia and it's only natural that folks doing the same thing for 20+ years would be slower to react to a contractual change. Disclaimer: I'm not trying to cast aspersions (new generation vs old) on anyone, just sharing what a cursory comparison of 2022 and 2023 wide reports showed.
I will say that we (senior people) make more money than holiday pay provides by continuing to exercise seniority by prefer over holiday X, then GS'ing over it. I never thought holiday pay would alter that behavior and it appears it has not.
Thanks again, appreciate the insight on the NB stuff.
12-16-2023, 12:22 PM
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(If anyone disagrees with any of the above statements, please just google it instead of replying)
12-16-2023, 12:55 PM
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Thanks for the information. I don't really pay too much attention to what is happening in NB fleets, so I appreciate the insight.
I will say that we (senior people) make more money than holiday pay provides by continuing to exercise seniority by prefer over holiday X, then GS'ing over it. I never thought holiday pay would alter that behavior and it appears it has not.
Thanks again, appreciate the insight on the NB stuff.
I will say that we (senior people) make more money than holiday pay provides by continuing to exercise seniority by prefer over holiday X, then GS'ing over it. I never thought holiday pay would alter that behavior and it appears it has not.
Thanks again, appreciate the insight on the NB stuff.
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