Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2 >

Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2

Search

Notices

Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-02-2023, 03:36 PM
  #3541  
Gets Weekends Off
 
JamesBond's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2015
Position: A350 Both
Posts: 7,292
Default

Originally Posted by igotgummed
if you’re busting out the door asap worried about your 45min swap from F to T…..you’re doing it wrong.
Beat me to it.
JamesBond is offline  
Old 12-04-2023, 11:42 AM
  #3542  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2020
Posts: 1,920
Default

Heres a new one. On my sked now: Trip A 25-28DEC trip that has 30 hr layover and a redeye at end that releases to base at 0550 on 28DEC. PBS assigned another trip that reports 28DEC at 1745 thru 1950 31DEC.

Been trying to swap that second trip with one that reports at 0800 29DEC and goes til 0900 01Jan (spill trip). Rules auditor says no problem, but hasn't gone through Swap w Pot, I'm assuming because the computer doesn't consider the fact that even though trip A ends in redeye that returns to base at 0520 on 28DEC, the fact that the second trip left on that same day is blocking it's swap? Is there any block on swapping to carryover trips until after jan bids come out? TIA....
nene is offline  
Old 12-04-2023, 12:12 PM
  #3543  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,609
Default

Originally Posted by nene
Heres a new one. On my sked now: Trip A 25-28DEC trip that has 30 hr layover and a redeye at end that releases to base at 0550 on 28DEC. PBS assigned another trip that reports 28DEC at 1745 thru 1950 31DEC.

Been trying to swap that second trip with one that reports at 0800 29DEC and goes til 0900 01Jan (spill trip). Rules auditor says no problem, but hasn't gone through Swap w Pot, I'm assuming because the computer doesn't consider the fact that even though trip A ends in redeye that returns to base at 0520 on 28DEC, the fact that the second trip left on that same day is blocking it's swap? Is there any block on swapping to carryover trips until after jan bids come out? TIA....
What does the denial report say?
CBreezy is offline  
Old 12-04-2023, 01:51 PM
  #3544  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2020
Posts: 1,920
Default

Originally Posted by CBreezy
What does the denial report say?
says "capped reserve days" despite the fact I'm scheduled to fly on all days, just un-overlapping the flying on 28DEC
nene is offline  
Old 12-04-2023, 01:59 PM
  #3545  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,609
Default

Originally Posted by nene
says "capped reserve days" despite the fact I'm scheduled to fly on all days, just un-overlapping the flying on 28DEC
If 28DEC is negative, your swap will be blocked. It doesn't look at your whole schedule, just the trips to be added and trips to be dropped. So, in this case, you're dropping 28 (negative) and adding 01Jan (positive). You MIGHT have a chance to swap out of 28 once January schedules are posted if Jan1 is more negative than 28Dec
CBreezy is offline  
Old 12-04-2023, 11:23 PM
  #3546  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,040
Default

Originally Posted by nene
Heres a new one. On my sked now: Trip A 25-28DEC trip that has 30 hr layover and a redeye at end that releases to base at 0550 on 28DEC. PBS assigned another trip that reports 28DEC at 1745 thru 1950 31DEC.

Been trying to swap that second trip with one that reports at 0800 29DEC and goes til 0900 01Jan (spill trip). Rules auditor says no problem, but hasn't gone through Swap w Pot, I'm assuming because the computer doesn't consider the fact that even though trip A ends in redeye that returns to base at 0520 on 28DEC, the fact that the second trip left on that same day is blocking it's swap? Is there any block on swapping to carryover trips until after jan bids come out? TIA....
That would be a fatigue call if it was me.
hockeypilot44 is offline  
Old 12-05-2023, 04:30 AM
  #3547  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,703
Default

Originally Posted by nene
Heres a new one. On my sked now: Trip A 25-28DEC trip that has 30 hr layover and a redeye at end that releases to base at 0550 on 28DEC. PBS assigned another trip that reports 28DEC at 1745 thru 1950 31DEC.

Been trying to swap that second trip with one that reports at 0800 29DEC and goes til 0900 01Jan (spill trip). Rules auditor says no problem, but hasn't gone through Swap w Pot, I'm assuming because the computer doesn't consider the fact that even though trip A ends in redeye that returns to base at 0520 on 28DEC, the fact that the second trip left on that same day is blocking it's swap? Is there any block on swapping to carryover trips until after jan bids come out? TIA....
How much over 30 is your 30 hour layover?
sailingfun is offline  
Old 12-05-2023, 07:39 AM
  #3548  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: 73na
Posts: 287
Default

Originally Posted by nene
Heres a new one. On my sked now: Trip A 25-28DEC trip that has 30 hr layover and a redeye at end that releases to base at 0550 on 28DEC. PBS assigned another trip that reports 28DEC at 1745 thru 1950 31DEC.

Been trying to swap that second trip with one that reports at 0800 29DEC and goes til 0900 01Jan (spill trip). Rules auditor says no problem, but hasn't gone through Swap w Pot, I'm assuming because the computer doesn't consider the fact that even though trip A ends in redeye that returns to base at 0520 on 28DEC, the fact that the second trip left on that same day is blocking it's swap? Is there any block on swapping to carryover trips until after jan bids come out? TIA....
23.H.5.a directs you to look at 23.I.10.a Exception. Because your swap touches the New Years Day Holiday period, it might never go through. It states "might be denied regardless of the number of reserves."

Last edited by Omar 111; 12-05-2023 at 07:43 AM. Reason: Added contract reference
Omar 111 is offline  
Old 12-05-2023, 07:46 AM
  #3549  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,609
Default

Originally Posted by Omar 111
23.H.5.a directs you to look at 23.I.10.a Exception. Because your swap touches the New Years Day Holiday period, it might never go through. It states "might be denied regardless of the number of reserves."
It won't be denied for that because the days aren't being dropped. The dropped day is the 28th
CBreezy is offline  
Old 12-05-2023, 05:43 PM
  #3550  
Moderator
 
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DAL 330
Posts: 7,017
Default

I have a line in December and want to bid reserve in January. I want to bid on call days 1-8 January and the WS a trip that flies into these days to knock out some on call days. I assume that would work - any issues with this? IIRC any days I fly into my reserve month just count as on call days with credit counting toward filling me up for January.

Thanks Scoop
Scoop is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
boog123
Delta
6
07-14-2016 12:26 PM
iahflyr
Major
27
09-30-2014 10:04 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 07:19 AM
ksatflyer
Hangar Talk
10
08-20-2008 10:14 PM
JiffyLube
Major
12
03-07-2008 05:27 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices