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Old 12-01-2023, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Some of those peers also wear their uniform coat and hat year round on international trips for the same money. You gonna do that too? Gonna make the FO do it too?

IOW...you will follow only the rules(suggestions/FOM guidelines) you want to follow?

Not trying to argue per se....just trying to gain insight as to what rules need to be followed, which can be ignored, and how does one decide which is which.
Do you never do anything but talk and read from Aerodocs in flight?
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Old 12-01-2023, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Some of those peers also wear their uniform coat and hat year round on international trips for the same money. You gonna do that too? Gonna make the FO do it too?

IOW...you will follow only the rules(suggestions/FOM guidelines) you want to follow?

Not trying to argue per se....just trying to gain insight as to what rules need to be followed, which can be ignored, and how does one decide which is which.
It’s hard to argue that anyone’s uniform standards are more stringent than ours, given our year-round hat policy. But that’s a completely separate can of worms.

Personally, I draw the line at performing an unpaid marketing duty, outside of both the PWA and the industry-accepted scope of an airline pilot’s duties.
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Old 12-01-2023, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Come on James, you know D1 is gone before you get the door opened. You also fly solely INt'l, so you have to wait on the FAs anyway. What else you going to do? These cats flying NBs are busting it. Turn a 321/73/75-300 in 45 minutes, going from F to T, yeah they do that - quite frequently. Can't blame them for bolting out the door ASAP. I surely don't. We are a different airline than the NBs
all things in moderation. And I am flying two domestic legs later this month. I'll wait and say good bye. I think this whole discussion is hilarious. If they don't want to stay and say adios, then don't. Who cares?
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Old 12-01-2023, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Some of those peers also wear their uniform coat and hat year round on international trips for the same money. You gonna do that too? Gonna make the FO do it too?

IOW...you will follow only the rules(suggestions/FOM guidelines) you want to follow?

Not trying to argue per se....just trying to gain insight as to what rules need to be followed, which can be ignored, and how does one decide which is which.
I just follow managements lead... in other words I make up the rules as I go and only follow the ones that bennefit me. Besides they remove and rewrite the RULES of the road annually. So it's just a matter of timing anyway.
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Old 12-01-2023, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
CBreezy,

Can you explain your reason's for refusing to say goodby at the door because, "It's not my job , I am disrespected by management, I will hurt their NPS to show my dismay"

and....

"I hand out cards, it's all about the customer and NPS, good goes around"?

Just seems like there isn't a logical nexus between your actions. Seems as if you shoud do both ....OR... neither. Might as well include the hat in the civil disobedience in an attempt to achieve your ends.
It's because the person behind the CBreezy and Oofff accounts is a socially awkward oddball who's goal is to rack up "points" by arguing devils advocate on everything they see online, regardless of what they actually think personally. So of course, their arguments aren't consistent. And if you know what to look for, this person does the same thing on the various widget facebook pages too. It's a sick, sad obsession with getting attention and seeing their name on the internet.

Kind of like the goofballs coming to the cockpit pretending their arent videoing us, asking for cards so they can post us on the internet and get attention on ticktockinstaface. If only these kids could put as much effort into getting a job as they put into attention seeking these days.
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Old 12-01-2023, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Some of those peers also wear their uniform coat and hat year round on international trips for the same money. You gonna do that too? Gonna make the FO do it too?

IOW...you will follow only the rules(suggestions/FOM guidelines) you want to follow?

Not trying to argue per se....just trying to gain insight as to what rules need to be followed, which can be ignored, and how does one decide which is which.
when it comes to uniform, yes. that is what the company has decided to do with our contractual, legally binding working agreement. Let the arbitrator sort it out. UNtil then I contnue to laugh at the dudes wearing the suit and hat in July. Hint: not from DTW, SLC, NYC or MSP. Def not from LAX either. Seems this is a behaviorial characteristic of a certain pilot group with a cerain seniority. YMMV
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Old 12-01-2023, 01:41 PM
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i have a big career decision to make. I am trying to get all the infomation so I can make the right decision for me and my family if I should leave where I am at and take the CJO. Right now its leaning towards yes, but I want to make sure

Can someone please tell me the current hire dates for the plug in the left seat on 320 and 737 in LAX and ATL?
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Old 12-01-2023, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FyrePilot
i have a big career decision to make. I am trying to get all the infomation so I can make the right decision for me and my family.

Can someone tell me the current hire dates for the plug in the left seat on 320 and 737 in LAX and ATL?
6/2022 for the 737 and 1/2022 for 320 in LAX My guess is it will take someone hired today 6-7 years to hold either in LAX unless LAX grows significantly or Delta in general grows significantly.
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Old 12-01-2023, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FyrePilot
i have a big career decision to make. I am trying to get all the infomation so I can make the right decision for me and my family if I should leave where I am at and take the CJO. Right now its leaning towards yes, but I want to make sure

Can someone please tell me the current hire dates for the plug in the left seat on 320 and 737 in LAX and ATL?
Better question is what is that seniority number. If the plug is 14,000, and you are 17,000 when hired (we are almost there), and we have between 500-600/year retirements, there’s the real math you need to worry about. Obviously growth and fleet plans not withstanding.
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Old 12-01-2023, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
Better question is what is that seniority number. If the plug is 14,000, and you are 17,000 when hired (we are almost there), and we have between 500-600/year retirements, there’s the real math you need to worry about. Obviously growth and fleet plans not withstanding.
I am 38 now. So my guess with the calculator means I will end my career without getting past 30%. I would be happy as narrowbody captain in 6-7 years in ATL or LAX.
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