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Old 11-03-2023, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
it depends if you are trying to keep money out of spill cash territory like I am. I didn’t opt out of MBCBP but for now I want as little as possible to go into that account. So if I think I’ll make 345k or more, I would just do 3%

I’m 99% sure you can roth company 401k contributions now. That was a change about a year ago IIRC
What's your logic for wanting 'as little as possible' to go into that account?
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Old 11-03-2023, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
Is there a benefits to slow rolling it? I just take the spill cash once it’s maxed out as I’ve always had it at 13%. I know I’m financially illiterate so go easy on me.
I'll take a stab at it. Prior to the MBCBP, and income earned after you hit all the 415(c) limits was paid at regular income and was taxed as such. Some people were averse to that taxation so they tried to hit the limit at year's end in order to avoid that. That doesn't apply now as the MBCBP is not taxed at regular rates and is sheltered. The other philosophy was to fill up to those limits early on in order to get the time/value of money early on and have all that tax sheltered money working as soon as possible. Think of it as dollar cost averaging versus making a big investment early on.

It's just philosophical imho. I preferred to have that money working as soon as possible in the tax sheltered accounts so all of my profit sharing went into those accounts. That is a much better option now with the MBCBP as the .gov doesn't get a cut until you take it out. (And alpa doesn't get any either which doesn't break my heart.)
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Old 11-03-2023, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
I'll take a stab at it. Prior to the MBCBP, and income earned after you hit all the 415(c) limits was paid at regular income and was taxed as such. Some people were averse to that taxation so they tried to hit the limit at year's end in order to avoid that. That doesn't apply now as the MBCBP is not taxed at regular rates and is sheltered. The other philosophy was to fill up to those limits early on in order to get the time/value of money early on and have all that tax sheltered money working as soon as possible. Think of it as dollar cost averaging versus making a big investment early on.

It's just philosophical imho. I preferred to have that money working as soon as possible in the tax sheltered accounts so all of my profit sharing went into those accounts. That is a much better option now with the MBCBP as the .gov doesn't get a cut until you take it out. (And alpa doesn't get any either which doesn't break my heart.)
This is exactly how I understood it. I wanted to front load the money for the time value. Now with the MBCBP I felt I wanted more in there. Just wondering if I was missing something. Looks like I’m not as dumb as I thought I was. Thanks everybody.
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Old 11-03-2023, 07:52 AM
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3% is the easy button as GF said somewhere. That takes the company 17% up to 20% which maxes out total contributions at the IRS limit while minimizing personal contributions to get there. The 17% above $345000 will go into the MBCBP (unless you opted out) and is tax differed. My PS on valentines day will go to HSA and any other tax advantaged account like IRA rolled to a roth, 529s, 50+ catchup etc. for tax efficiency.
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Old 11-03-2023, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
3% is the easy button as GF said somewhere. That takes the company 17% up to 20% which maxes out total contributions at the IRS limit while minimizing personal contributions to get there. The 17% above $345000 will go into the MBCBP (unless you opted out) and is tax differed. My PS on valentines day will go to HSA and any other tax advantaged account like IRA rolled to a roth, 529s, 50+ catchup etc. for tax efficiency.
yep.... I fill everything with PS.
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Old 11-05-2023, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
yep.... I fill everything with PS.
I just like to spend my PS. Hoping for enough this year for a master suite remodel and maybe a patio/fire pit area.
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Old 11-05-2023, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
I just like to spend my PS. Hoping for enough this year for a master suite remodel and maybe a patio/fire pit area.
I’ve already put a down payment on a pool.
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Originally Posted by Jaww
I’ve already put a down payment on a pool.
you serious Clark?
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Old 11-05-2023, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Hossharris
you serious Clark?
It'll be jam of the month club!
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Old 11-05-2023, 06:14 AM
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It'll be jam of the month club!
The gift that keeps on giving.....😁
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