fishforfun

A big enough check to not incentivize dragging out negotiations again. Needs to be painful. If it’s not, it’s a win for them.

fishforfun

Didn’t the last bid awards posts in record time last time? Like about 24 hours after closing?

Bainite

When I go to Deltanet the latest AE posting is Feb22.

Wolf424

Yeah, it was fast. That’s why I’m guessing COB on Friday (bid closes Wednesday), but it wouldn’t shock me if it was done on Thursday, or if it carried over the weekend.

Wolf424

I see now what you’re saying. Memo said it was going to be posted yesterday. Not sure why it’s not on Deltanet.

Hrkdrivr

And there’s no warning to check your bids on the iCrew main screen.

Planetrain

There was a pop up message on my icrew.

All 5 Stages

Every day we work under the 2019 pay scales, we work for less and less. Clearly, with inflation as it is, the company benefits tremendously from dragging its feet. The retro pay needs to be such that the pilots that are flying, and have flown since January 1, 2020 are "made whole" (to use a phrase frequently seen here).

Eagerly waiting to see what the company and ALPA think that number should be.

A5S

Vsop

First the cart is waaaay in front of the horse when discussing retro pay.

I think the calculation for true full retro pay will be nearly impossible to determine. The easy part is hourly rate difference applied over the flying done past the amendable date. Harder is the soft credit: training, vacation, home study, insurance premiums... Harder still is the work rules that should have been in effect. We don’t even know what those are yet, but they could include items like bidding for long term training, trip coverage ladder changes, and on and on. Had the contract been active over the last few years there would potentially have been many wronged pilots. What’s the value of that?
As time goes on calculating true retro pay will become too big of a task. In my opinion we need to have the difference in pay rates and a percentage above that to cover some of the other items.
I know that’s potentially a huge check for the company to write. However, if we don’t get that we are encouraging the company to not negotiate the next contract on time.

20Fathoms

Are the ALPA COVID protections still in place or did those expire? (NFLY) no sickbank reduction etc. Just tested positive, is there a good current document to reference? Thanks.