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Old 10-20-2023, 02:48 PM
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Each PCS run does 2 loops. So a trip can drop off somebody else’s schedule (for any number of reasons) on loop 1, and then your swap can go through on loop 2…faster than a human can see it.

Blind swaps are good, but carry some risk. Targeted rotation/date swaps are better, but require effort to insert them. John Bell’s website has rotations listed on it for those inclined to go filtering.

Much easier to generate swap requests in a small category, but larger categories have more churn.

Don’t discount the swap board. Entirely different animal than Swap with Pot. Can also be part of a sked improvement strategy.
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Old 10-20-2023, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Each PCS run does 2 loops. So a trip can drop off somebody else’s schedule (for any number of reasons) on loop 1, and then your swap can go through on loop 2…faster than a human can see it.

Blind swaps are good, but carry some risk. Targeted rotation/date swaps are better, but require effort to insert them. John Bell’s website has rotations listed on it for those inclined to go filtering.

Much easier to generate swap requests in a small category, but larger categories have more churn.

Don’t discount the swap board. Entirely different animal than Swap with Pot. Can also be part of a sked improvement strategy.
The only problem with the swap board is that to get rid of a trip you have to have something someone else actually wants!
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Old 10-20-2023, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Red55555
So for example if you’re on reserve from the 15th-18th can you request a “blind swap” to drop reserve days and pick up a trip? Or does it only work if you have a line?
Trip swaps are only for line holders. As a reserve once you are assigned a rotation the only 2 ways to get out of it are to get sick or do a GS a day or two prior that either conflicts with the assigned trip or forces the drop due to PB days being applied to those LC days.
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Old 10-20-2023, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Trip swaps are only for line holders. As a reserve once you are assigned a rotation the only 2 ways to get out of it are to get sick or do a GS a day or two prior that either conflicts with the assigned trip or forces the drop due to PB days being applied to those LC days.
Yeah. The much simpler art of reserve schedule tinkering is moving your reserve days once you get them. If there is decent coverage you can get all the days you want off which is what I managed to do the first 2 PCS runs today. Need to know the rules though.
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Old 10-21-2023, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Same run....it's magical

I flew with a bottom feeder line holder that had the most primo trips. He culled all the trips he wanted to fly and loaded more than 300 swap with the pot trading his initial crap for really senior trips. He said he spent about an hour inputting it while watching his kids watch a movie. His logic was 1 hour of "pain" to input for a month of superb trips.
If only there were and Easy way to Swap trips. That would be a cool program.
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Old 10-21-2023, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
If only there were and Easy way to Swap trips. That would be a cool program.
I see what you did there!!😀. That was an amazing program. Made the targeted blind swap a breeze!
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Old 10-21-2023, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tripled
and getting batch size back down
Originally Posted by ancman
A much more costly, operationally-disruptive problem for the company than it was for the pilot group. Eliminating batch sizes should have only been offered to the company with a giant price tag attached.

The MEC displayed extreme weakness, and we’re now seeing the company further attempt to steamroll them.
yep. We gave them up for nothing and the company knows it. Quite frankly I don’t want to pay whatever price the company would attach to get them back.

we got the language when it was a “good price” and sold it for next to nothing. It’s just not worth it right now to get it back. same logic as if I got absolutely ripped off selling my car to a dealer and they had it for sale for 3x what I sold it for, I would not rush to go buy it back from them.
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Old 10-21-2023, 06:17 AM
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I need to get better with PCS, I’ve just done limited targeted swaps, rather than trying to drop and replace my sched. If I put say 3 trips on one add line, is it all or nothing? Thanks for help!
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Old 10-21-2023, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
I need to get better with PCS, I’ve just done limited targeted swaps, rather than trying to drop and replace my sched. If I put say 3 trips on one add line, is it all or nothing? Thanks for help!
Yes, all or nothing.
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Old 10-21-2023, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
Yes, all or nothing.
Thanks, what I figured, makes it trickier but could still be manageable.
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