Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
#3131
#3132
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined APC: Jun 2021
Posts: 2,235
I’m not a fan of the way it went down, but we have to adjust the way we do things.
#3133
Auto accept works fine. I don't always know the parameters ahead of time nor do I care to put in several different slips and waste my time figuring out all the possibilities. The old way was better, you got a call when it was your trip. Auto accept does effectively the same thing but you only have 12 minutes from first contact. Often times the window is closed or nearly so by the time I notice. I've adapted but my childhood wasn't device centric so sometimes it isn't within arms length.
#3134
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,237
Maybe collect input on possible scenarios and then when the balloon goes up, while wearing your big boy pants, make a decision since you have already gathered the necessary info.
If "they" aren't interested enough to keep you apprised of their expectations/wants/desires, then maybe it just wasn't that important to be there for it?
Or maybe, the $$$ isn't that important to you if you want make to make every single life event. In that case, don't put in for a green slip.
You seemed to be irked that they call you too much, and also irked that you don't have enough time to sort it all out. And also irked that you might miss Johnny's music lesson. Just kinda comes across as counter-intuitive.
Having a wife and having children and commuting are all choices, or so I've heard.
If "they" aren't interested enough to keep you apprised of their expectations/wants/desires, then maybe it just wasn't that important to be there for it?
Or maybe, the $$$ isn't that important to you if you want make to make every single life event. In that case, don't put in for a green slip.
You seemed to be irked that they call you too much, and also irked that you don't have enough time to sort it all out. And also irked that you might miss Johnny's music lesson. Just kinda comes across as counter-intuitive.
Having a wife and having children and commuting are all choices, or so I've heard.
#3135
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2022
Posts: 930
Other pilots may be interested in flying green slips, but have a lot of other commitments in their lives that need to be rearranged before a slip can be accepted. They may need 2-3 hours to hear back from everyone to determine whether they can commit to a trip.
Most pilots are somewhere in between those two extremes. Unlimited batch sizes decrease the pool of pilots for whom green slips are practical, driving them more junior overall.
#3136
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,518
Some pilots may live by the airport, have no kids, no spouse, don’t mind leaving their ringer on all the time, and love going to work. They don’t even need 24 minutes - they can accept and acknowledge in 1 minute.
Other pilots may be interested in flying green slips, but have a lot of other commitments in their lives that need to be rearranged before a slip can be accepted. They may need 2-3 hours to hear back from everyone to determine whether they can commit to a trip.
Most pilots are somewhere in between those two extremes. Unlimited batch sizes decrease the pool of pilots for whom green slips are practical, driving them more junior overall.
Other pilots may be interested in flying green slips, but have a lot of other commitments in their lives that need to be rearranged before a slip can be accepted. They may need 2-3 hours to hear back from everyone to determine whether they can commit to a trip.
Most pilots are somewhere in between those two extremes. Unlimited batch sizes decrease the pool of pilots for whom green slips are practical, driving them more junior overall.
Your last statement is absolutely false
#3137
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2022
Posts: 930
Are you kidding?
Old system:
I get a call for a GS for tomorrow, with a batch size of 1. 5 pilots before me have already been called, meaning coverage started well over an hour ago. None have accepted yet.
I need an hour or so to rearrange life plans before I can commit, so I wait and don’t respond to the GS. 4 more pilots are called over the next hour. None of them choose to accept either. After the 4th pilot has been called, I determine that I’m able to fly it and accept the GS out of my window. Once that pilot’s window expires, the GS is awarded to me.
New system:
I get a call for a GS along with 200 other pilots. Pilots #1 - 70 need more time to coordinate, are stuck in traffic, in a movie theater, asleep, or whatever else. Pilot #71 accepts the green slip, and the whole thing is over in 12 minutes.
The green slip that would have gone to pilot #6 now goes to pilot #71. I see it almost every day in my category.
Old system:
I get a call for a GS for tomorrow, with a batch size of 1. 5 pilots before me have already been called, meaning coverage started well over an hour ago. None have accepted yet.
I need an hour or so to rearrange life plans before I can commit, so I wait and don’t respond to the GS. 4 more pilots are called over the next hour. None of them choose to accept either. After the 4th pilot has been called, I determine that I’m able to fly it and accept the GS out of my window. Once that pilot’s window expires, the GS is awarded to me.
New system:
I get a call for a GS along with 200 other pilots. Pilots #1 - 70 need more time to coordinate, are stuck in traffic, in a movie theater, asleep, or whatever else. Pilot #71 accepts the green slip, and the whole thing is over in 12 minutes.
The green slip that would have gone to pilot #6 now goes to pilot #71. I see it almost every day in my category.
#3138
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,518
Are you kidding?
Old system:
I get a call for a GS for tomorrow, with a batch size of 1. 5 pilots before me have already been called, meaning coverage started well over an hour ago. None have accepted yet.
I need an hour or so to rearrange life plans before I can commit, so I wait and don’t respond to the GS. 4 more pilots are called over the next hour. None of them choose to accept either. After the 4th pilot has been called, I determine that I’m able to fly it and accept the GS out of my window. Once that pilot’s window expires, the GS is awarded to me.
New system:
I get a call for a GS along with 200 other pilots. Pilots #1 - 70 need more time to coordinate, are stuck in traffic, in a movie theater, asleep, or whatever else. Pilot #71 accepts the green slip, and the whole thing is over in 12 minutes.
The green slip that would have gone to pilot #6 now goes to pilot #71. I see it almost every day in my category.
Old system:
I get a call for a GS for tomorrow, with a batch size of 1. 5 pilots before me have already been called, meaning coverage started well over an hour ago. None have accepted yet.
I need an hour or so to rearrange life plans before I can commit, so I wait and don’t respond to the GS. 4 more pilots are called over the next hour. None of them choose to accept either. After the 4th pilot has been called, I determine that I’m able to fly it and accept the GS out of my window. Once that pilot’s window expires, the GS is awarded to me.
New system:
I get a call for a GS along with 200 other pilots. Pilots #1 - 70 need more time to coordinate, are stuck in traffic, in a movie theater, asleep, or whatever else. Pilot #71 accepts the green slip, and the whole thing is over in 12 minutes.
The green slip that would have gone to pilot #6 now goes to pilot #71. I see it almost every day in my category.
#3139
You are obviously unfamiliar with pre ARCOS GS processing.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post