Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
10-18-2023, 10:15 AM
#3121
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Lots of thrust, very little vector in this post. What specifically should be done, legally, by the union? And I find your hatred of DH pretty rich. You claim that he's bitter because he's a north guy who got hosed in the merger but somehow he's also pro-company and teaming up with C44 (the most RD of all delta pilots) to get screwed more?
Also, the random ad hominem about half this pilot group, most of which has dealt with regional airline management somehow being naively complicit in....returning this company to the poor working conditions of their former employer they just left?
But hey. It wouldn't be an anti-DALPA post without someone bringing up Lee Moak, for some reason. All we need in our DPA bingo card is the "Sane email" and the black shirts to really complete the line.
Also, the random ad hominem about half this pilot group, most of which has dealt with regional airline management somehow being naively complicit in....returning this company to the poor working conditions of their former employer they just left?
But hey. It wouldn't be an anti-DALPA post without someone bringing up Lee Moak, for some reason. All we need in our DPA bingo card is the "Sane email" and the black shirts to really complete the line.
10-18-2023, 10:24 AM
#3122
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They weren't violating the contract. 23M7 was permitted even though what they were doing wasn't past precedent. I think we should have gotten more for it and more guardrails but, as summer some of your reps and CA said, we were negotiating from a position of strength and risked losing worse than the RJ arbitration.
10-18-2023, 10:28 AM
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It’s also important to remember that not EVERY trip being covered had a rogue pilot waiting in the shadows to call scheduling and snipe the trip out of seniority. It was not uncommon to see trip coverage take up to 24 hours previously. Today, the vast majority of premium trips are covered in under 1 hour. We streamlined the operation massively, saving the company millions, at no cost to them.
10-18-2023, 10:39 AM
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Not me. I missed out on several GS that I wanted that were covered by A#x. And likely many others. In exchange, I got called for GS I couldn't take. I literally don't care if this saves the company money. I care that the intent of the language was complied with and that they stopped 23M7. That being the current 23N/O being utilized properly. While they haven't stopped it completely, it's drastically reduced.
As I said, I'm not happy that they gave so much and there is the perception they didn't get enough. I think we could have gotten more. But batch sizes had to go. They were unnecessary
As I said, I'm not happy that they gave so much and there is the perception they didn't get enough. I think we could have gotten more. But batch sizes had to go. They were unnecessary
10-18-2023, 10:51 AM
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Unnecessary? Really? How many calls were you getting after you went to bed? One night I got 7 calls for trips that I would have no chance at. My spouse finally said turn off the phone or take out the GS. I revised the call hours but then missed prime trips I would have gotten. A single call for a real proffer is one thing, robo spam all night long was quite another. Night time batch sizes ended that.
10-18-2023, 11:04 AM
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As for individual pilots, some found it better and others found it worse. The collective view should have been that it was an item of tremendous value that would eventually be fixed for a significant price.
I didn’t mind the long coverage times at all, even as a commuter. Often times a green slip that began coverage at 3 AM (when I was asleep with my phone on silent) would still be available when I woke up hours later. The slower coverage times gave everyone a lot more time to consider trips that were being offered, and to plan their lives accordingly.
The irony is that while many saw batch sizes as abrogating seniority, the average green slip in my category has gone much more junior post-fix. This is due to many pilots not being able to upend their life plans to go to work on their days off with only 12 minutes to make a decision.
10-18-2023, 11:24 AM
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Are you really looking for thanks for company wage theft? How do you know the other pilot didn't file an ACE or even how the settlement end up for them if your pay wasn't affected? I filed a bunch of these over the summer and am still hearing crickets.
10-18-2023, 11:39 AM
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The irony is that while many saw batch sizes as abrogating seniority, the average green slip in my category has gone much more junior post-fix. This is due to many pilots not being able to upend their life plans to go to work on their days off with only 12 minutes to make a decision.
The irony is that while many saw batch sizes as abrogating seniority, the average green slip in my category has gone much more junior post-fix. This is due to many pilots not being able to upend their life plans to go to work on their days off with only 12 minutes to make a decision.
10-18-2023, 11:44 AM
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Today, most trips are covered in one giant batch, offering everyone only 12 minutes to decide.
10-18-2023, 11:46 AM
#3130
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You get 2 12 minute blocks, one to accept and one to acknowledge. If you need that much time maybe you didn’t need that greenie.
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