ancman

White slips are processed before swaps. If your white slip was denied due to contractual limits (i.e. the trip is worth more than your max pickup limit), then PCS would’ve continued moving down the list. It would process any remaining white slips from other pilots, followed by swaps. The swap award was most likely correct.

Go Cards go

In other words, if the trip would put you over ALV + 15 it would be denied.
Edit: A WS would be denied. It could be swapped to over ALV +15

Cft23

My schedule shows 32.15 Hr to pickup. This was a trip worth 8:35. Could there be any other reason why it was denied?

cencal83406

was it for a next-day rotation?

ancman

What was the start date of the trip and when did you put in the white slip?

Cft23

It was for 2nd day. Request put in about 2 hrs prior to the 1200 PCS run today. 09/13 was the date.

ancman

This is a scenario where things get a little messy under the new PWA. Swap with the pot can still be processed automatically by PCS for second-day trips, but white slips cannot. After the 0700 PCS run, second-day white slips must be processed manually by scheduling.

When PCS ran at 1200, it denied your white slip because it was for a second-day trip after the 0700 run. It then awarded the swap to the other pilot because swaps are still performed by PCS up until 0700 the day prior.

Had crew scheduling performed the manual coverage process prior to the next PCS run, the trip could have been awarded to you as a white slip. Unfortunately, they’re allowed to wait as long as they want to run coverage.

It’s a screwy scenario, but unfortunately legal under 23.E.2 and 23.N. The only real way to avoid it is to call scheduling after you put the white slip in and ask them if they can run coverage on the trip.

Cft23

Thanks for the replies! That is a tricky one!

hockeypilot44

Yes. White slip pcs process stops at 7am TWO days prior. Swap pcs process stops at 7am ONE day prior.

Welcome to 18 hour long call rules.

hockeypilot44

Have you been successful at this? My experience is they let PCS run once, then manually run the trips that survived the PCS run.