Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
09-01-2023, 11:41 AM
#2782
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12.S. says "scheduled" which means as built in the bid package, not as flown
09-01-2023, 11:52 AM
#2783
FlySmarterNotHarder
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Interesting. So my reroute was built with a scheduled sit of 4.57min and actual was 5.03. But none of that matters for sit pay. As flown does matter for other things like Carve and EDP though, not just as built in the bid package...
09-01-2023, 12:09 PM
#2784
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Hopefully it may be one of those manually adjustments that are often "forgotten" and in any case do not applied until the rotation is closed out.
Definitely call DALPA or ACE it. Please report back on what you find.
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09-01-2023, 12:18 PM
#2785
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09-01-2023, 12:36 PM
#2786
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- Sit Pay
For all time spent between any two consecutive deadhead and/or flight segments within a duty period, a pilot will receive one minute of pay, no credit (in addition to all other pay) for every two minutes, measured from the scheduled block-in to block-out times, in excess of three hours.
- For a regular line holder, Sit Pay will not count toward the LCW in PBS and, for a reserve line holder, Sit Pay will be above the reserve guarantee.
- Sit Pay is based upon scheduled and/or rerouted scheduled sit times. A late inbound arrival will not reduce Sit Pay, nor will a delayed outbound departure increase Sit Pay.
- Sit Pay will not count toward a pilot’s WS/YS pickup limit, nor toward a regular line holder’s GS trigger.
- Sit Pay will not be doubled if the rotation is flown by a regular line holder as a GS or IA.
- Sit Pay will not apply to an April rotation that carries over into the May bid period.
- Sit Pay will apply toward a regular pilot’s rotation guarantee.
- For a regular line holder, Sit Pay will not count toward the LCW in PBS and, for a reserve line holder, Sit Pay will be above the reserve guarantee.
I called crew scheduling and the person I talked to said that sit pay change should change with a reroute and is being worked manually and wait for up to 14 days. However, the trip in question has already been reviewed and RRPY applied. So the crew scheduler sent an email to have the rotation audited again for sit pay. We'll see.....
Last edited by UGBSM; 09-01-2023 at 01:11 PM. Reason: Called Crew Scheduling
09-01-2023, 12:40 PM
#2787
Roll’n Thunder
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Here is what the SRH says:
- Sit Pay
For all time spent between any two consecutive deadhead and/or flight segments within a duty period, a pilot will receive one minute of pay, no credit (in addition to all other pay) for every two minutes, measured from the scheduled block-in to block-out times, in excess of three hours.- For a regular line holder, Sit Pay will not count toward the LCW in PBS and, for a reserve line holder, Sit Pay will be above the reserve guarantee.
- Sit Pay is based upon scheduled and/or rerouted scheduled sit times. A late inbound arrival will not reduce Sit Pay, nor will a delayed outbound departure increase Sit Pay.
- Sit Pay will not count toward a pilot’s WS/YS pickup limit, nor toward a regular line holder’s GS trigger.
- Sit Pay will not be doubled if the rotation is flown by a regular line holder as a GS or IA.
- Sit Pay will not apply to an April rotation that carries over into the May bid period.
- Sit Pay will apply toward a regular pilot’s rotation guarantee.
- For a regular line holder, Sit Pay will not count toward the LCW in PBS and, for a reserve line holder, Sit Pay will be above the reserve guarantee.
09-01-2023, 02:02 PM
#2789
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That probably mattered back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and they bid lines of time vs PBS.
09-01-2023, 02:56 PM
#2790
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ALPA in the SRH says: "Sit Pay is based upon scheduled and/or rerouted scheduled sit times."
The PWA says: "Sit Pay: For all time spent between any two consecutive deadhead and/or flight segments within a duty period, a pilot will receive one minute of pay, no credit (in addition to all other pay) for every 2 minutes, measured from the scheduled block-in to block-out times, in excess of 2 hours."
The SRH is more explicit it seems to me.
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