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Old 05-06-2022, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Oh, sorry. When you said "ABSOLUTELY NO" you were using a different dictionary to define what "absolutely" means?

Cool, we just make up words where the meaning is opaque.

This is not nit-picking some typo....it is tough to discuss ideas and concepts when you have your own dictionary.
i am vehemently opposed to it. I’m not sure what you’re saying here.
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Old 05-06-2022, 08:10 AM
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Keep the airport reserve at your regional. Absolutely not.
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Old 05-06-2022, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Even if it is only a choice selected by the pilot(at the pilots choosing, not assignable by the company) and was incentivized?
I’d do it. I wouldn’t speak for Oofff, and he doesn’t speak for me. I’m a commuter and am often sitting SC at the airport. The problem would lie in the fact that, at least in my base but I’m guessing system wide, most pilots who purposely bid reserve are locals. But if it was voluntary and incentivized, I’d be ok with it and would indeed call scheduling and tell them that I’m at the airport and available for a short notice assignment. Most often it would probable be one leg out to a layover and back to a hub where the original crew would be waiting to take over their trip again. Depending on the participation level, it would probably go a long way towards reducing reroutes for other crews.
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Old 05-06-2022, 08:43 AM
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I want nothing to do with airport reserve. In my category the reroutes are more because of a lack of reserves in total, not a lack of ones close by. So we gain little to no reroute gains but the company is really going to want to be able to mandate it. Not even a discussion.
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Old 05-06-2022, 09:10 AM
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**** no to airport reserve. I can’t believe we’re even discussing this.

NO.

EDIT: also, the company already does schedule pilots for flights inside of an hour to report when on short call. Ask me how I know.
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Old 05-06-2022, 09:54 AM
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**** no to airport reserve. I can’t believe we’re even discussing this.

NO.

EDIT: also, the company already does schedule pilots for flights inside of an hour to report when on short call. Ask me how I know.
and you would not have to accept that time.
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Old 05-06-2022, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Oh, sorry. When you said "ABSOLUTELY NO" you were using a different dictionary to define what "absolutely" means?

Cool, we just make up words where the meaning is opaque.

This is not nit-picking some typo....it is tough to discuss ideas and concepts when you have your own dictionary.
What dictionary are you using? Here's the Merrium Webster dictionary:

"used in speech in the phrase absolutely not as a forceful way of saying "no" or of expressing disagreement"Do you think he's right?" "Absolutely not!"
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Old 05-06-2022, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 172skychicken
Keep the airport reserve at your regional. Absolutely not.
100% agree.
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Old 05-06-2022, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
and you would not have to accept that time.
You sure about that? PWA says "must be able to promptly report". There's a caveat IF you ADVISE skeds when notified for short call that you will be unavailable for a 2hr window at the beginning of the short call period, after which the "promptly report" applies for the rest of the short call. The 2hr window isn't automatic, and only applies to the first 2hrs. If you don't call and tell them, you can have a report time anytime in the short call period.

Edit: In practice, just because they award you a rotation with a quick or immediate report time doesn't mean they expect you to be there immediately. They are reasonable and just want you to be there as soon as you can, accepting a late departure is likely, within reason (~2hrs is my understanding as within reason). But you can't just turn down the assignment.
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Old 05-06-2022, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ChazzMMichaels
You sure about that? PWA says "must be able to promptly report". There's a caveat IF you ADVISE skeds when notified for short call that you will be unavailable for a 2hr window at the beginning of the short call period, after which the "promptly report" applies for the rest of the short call. The 2hr window isn't automatic, and only applies to the first 2hrs. If you don't call and tell them, you can have a report time anytime in the short call period.

Edit: In practice, just because they award you a rotation with a quick or immediate report time doesn't mean they expect you to be there immediately. They are reasonable and just want you to be there as soon as you can, accepting a late departure is likely, within reason (~2hrs is my understanding as within reason). But you can't just turn down the assignment.
I have never heard anyone including the CP say they interpret promptly available to be able to report in under an hour ( with the exception that if I am not contactable for the first 2 hours of my SC, I need to be immediately available at the end of that 2 hour peroid)

not turn down, but I do not have to accept 1 hour to report if I am called on SC. My point was that just because they call you for something 1 hour from now does not mean you have to be there in that timeframe

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