Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
07-21-2023, 02:43 PM
#2513
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PWA 4.H.4. - Suit Up Pay:
4. A reserve pilot will receive a minimum of two hours pay, no credit; be released from duty and receive free of duty periods under Section 23 S. 11., if the pilot:
a. has not acknowledged the removal from a rotation, and
b. reports for duty (e.g., GS, IA) on an X-day.
PWA 23.S.11. Payback Days:
11. A reserve pilot who flies on an X-day due to an IA, GS, or reroute will be given nine hours free of duty upon their release at the completion of their rotation.
a. The pilot’s X-day(s) will begin immediately following such nine-hour period and will continue until they have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in their scheduled X-day block.
b. If the remaining days in the bid period are insufficient to contain the X-day(s), the pilot will be granted an additional day(s) off under Section 23 S. 16.
It doesn't say anything about only applying to the first interrupted X-day; it says that the "payback day(s)" will be awarded in accordance with 23.S.11. which is what governs flying a normal reserve greenslip. This is new language in TA 19.....Or did we magically give this away recently like 23.M.7.?
4. A reserve pilot will receive a minimum of two hours pay, no credit; be released from duty and receive free of duty periods under Section 23 S. 11., if the pilot:
a. has not acknowledged the removal from a rotation, and
b. reports for duty (e.g., GS, IA) on an X-day.
PWA 23.S.11. Payback Days:
11. A reserve pilot who flies on an X-day due to an IA, GS, or reroute will be given nine hours free of duty upon their release at the completion of their rotation.
a. The pilot’s X-day(s) will begin immediately following such nine-hour period and will continue until they have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in their scheduled X-day block.
b. If the remaining days in the bid period are insufficient to contain the X-day(s), the pilot will be granted an additional day(s) off under Section 23 S. 16.
It doesn't say anything about only applying to the first interrupted X-day; it says that the "payback day(s)" will be awarded in accordance with 23.S.11. which is what governs flying a normal reserve greenslip. This is new language in TA 19.....Or did we magically give this away recently like 23.M.7.?
07-21-2023, 02:48 PM
#2514
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PWA 4.H.4. - Suit Up Pay:
4. A reserve pilot will receive a minimum of two hours pay, no credit; be released from duty and receive free of duty periods under Section 23 S. 11., if the pilot:
a. has not acknowledged the removal from a rotation, and
b. reports for duty (e.g., GS, IA) on an X-day.
PWA 23.S.11. Payback Days:
11. A reserve pilot who flies on an X-day due to an IA, GS, or reroute will be given nine hours free of duty upon their release at the completion of their rotation.
a. The pilot’s X-day(s) will begin immediately following such nine-hour period and will continue until they have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in their scheduled X-day block.
b. If the remaining days in the bid period are insufficient to contain the X-day(s), the pilot will be granted an additional day(s) off under Section 23 S. 16.
It doesn't say anything about only applying to the first interrupted X-day; it says that the "payback day(s)" will be awarded in accordance with 23.S.11. which is what governs flying a normal reserve greenslip. This is new language in TA 19.....Or did we magically give this away recently like 23.M.7.?
4. A reserve pilot will receive a minimum of two hours pay, no credit; be released from duty and receive free of duty periods under Section 23 S. 11., if the pilot:
a. has not acknowledged the removal from a rotation, and
b. reports for duty (e.g., GS, IA) on an X-day.
PWA 23.S.11. Payback Days:
11. A reserve pilot who flies on an X-day due to an IA, GS, or reroute will be given nine hours free of duty upon their release at the completion of their rotation.
a. The pilot’s X-day(s) will begin immediately following such nine-hour period and will continue until they have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in their scheduled X-day block.
b. If the remaining days in the bid period are insufficient to contain the X-day(s), the pilot will be granted an additional day(s) off under Section 23 S. 16.
It doesn't say anything about only applying to the first interrupted X-day; it says that the "payback day(s)" will be awarded in accordance with 23.S.11. which is what governs flying a normal reserve greenslip. This is new language in TA 19.....Or did we magically give this away recently like 23.M.7.?
07-21-2023, 03:37 PM
#2517
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PWA 4.H.4. - Suit Up Pay:
4. A reserve pilot will receive a minimum of two hours pay, no credit; be released from duty and receive free of duty periods under Section 23 S. 11., if the pilot:
a. has not acknowledged the removal from a rotation, and
b. reports for duty (e.g., GS, IA) on an X-day.
PWA 23.S.11. Payback Days:
11. A reserve pilot who flies on an X-day due to an IA, GS, or reroute will be given nine hours free of duty upon their release at the completion of their rotation.
a. The pilot’s X-day(s) will begin immediately following such nine-hour period and will continue until they have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in their scheduled X-day block.
b. If the remaining days in the bid period are insufficient to contain the X-day(s), the pilot will be granted an additional day(s) off under Section 23 S. 16.
It doesn't say anything about only applying to the first interrupted X-day; it says that the "payback day(s)" will be awarded in accordance with 23.S.11. which is what governs flying a normal reserve greenslip. This is new language in TA 19.....Or did we magically give this away recently like 23.M.7.?
4. A reserve pilot will receive a minimum of two hours pay, no credit; be released from duty and receive free of duty periods under Section 23 S. 11., if the pilot:
a. has not acknowledged the removal from a rotation, and
b. reports for duty (e.g., GS, IA) on an X-day.
PWA 23.S.11. Payback Days:
11. A reserve pilot who flies on an X-day due to an IA, GS, or reroute will be given nine hours free of duty upon their release at the completion of their rotation.
a. The pilot’s X-day(s) will begin immediately following such nine-hour period and will continue until they have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in their scheduled X-day block.
b. If the remaining days in the bid period are insufficient to contain the X-day(s), the pilot will be granted an additional day(s) off under Section 23 S. 16.
It doesn't say anything about only applying to the first interrupted X-day; it says that the "payback day(s)" will be awarded in accordance with 23.S.11. which is what governs flying a normal reserve greenslip. This is new language in TA 19.....Or did we magically give this away recently like 23.M.7.?
07-21-2023, 03:40 PM
#2518
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Read 23.S.11. again. They are given to you upon completion. It’s been discussed here multiple times that PB days are not due until you are done with the rotation. If your rotation gets shorter or longer, your PB days change. Scheduling usually puts them on at award for convenience. If your GS is cancelled the suit up pay simply says that you get PB days based on what you actually did. Just like if a 4 day GS became a 2 day GS.
Don't argue with me about it, take it up with the Scheduling Committee. Clearly they haven’t even figured out what the language means.
07-21-2023, 03:45 PM
#2519
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So what part of the NOOP’d greenslip did you actually complete? Parking your car in the employee lot? Or peeing in the bathroom in the terminal?
Don't argue with me about it, take it up with the Scheduling Committee. Clearly they haven’t even figured out what the language means.
Don't argue with me about it, take it up with the Scheduling Committee. Clearly they haven’t even figured out what the language means.
07-21-2023, 04:00 PM
#2520
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So what part of the NOOP’d greenslip did you actually complete? Parking your car in the employee lot? Or peeing in the bathroom in the terminal?
Don't argue with me about it, take it up with the Scheduling Committee. Clearly they haven’t even figured out what the language means.
Don't argue with me about it, take it up with the Scheduling Committee. Clearly they haven’t even figured out what the language means.
There is absolutely no way you were given incorrect info about payback days from the scheduling committee. You just misunderstood what you were told.
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