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Old 07-05-2023, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
As a 717 guy, I’ve never had a designated meal. Probably 3 times in my entire time at Delta I’ve been offered extra meals by the FAs.
This is probably going to require some briefing items from Captains. I went through this a couple of times on the ER when we were supposed to have meals. Some CAs won't engage with the FAs to make sure the meals are on, and when they'd like to eat, etc. Looking through the bid pack, that's probably going require some more thought to that.
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:09 AM
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So how is this crew meals thing actually going to work domestically? I guess all it means to the company is 2 extra meals will be catered. And probably not the most popular choices. Hope you like impossible burgers and shrimp salads or grilled vegetables and burrata cheese. The passengers and non revs will still get first pick, then the FAs eat their pick of the leftovers. Maybe they have 2 meals "since there's so many left over" or mix and match from the trays. Then an hour from landing, if we call them and beg, they'll offer us some leftover leftovers. Or maybe they say nothing was left. I hate to be negative about this, but most of that is currently how it goes with most of the FAs.

It would be nice if we had a policy like United and could pick our meal ahead of time with our name on it. But of course, we'll get 'em next time on that. I bet we get a lot of $10 excuses too.


Some guidance from the union or the company would help. Maybe a memo to the FAs too. This takes effect in a month.
Not on my ship. We will be properly catered and the FA’s will know exactly which meals are for the pilots. The fitness for duty signatures and release of the parking brake depend on it.
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
This is probably going to require some briefing items from Captains. I went through this a couple of times on the ER when we were supposed to have meals. Some CAs won't engage with the FAs to make sure the meals are on, and when they'd like to eat, etc. Looking through the bid pack, that's probably going require some more thought to that.
I've heard plenty of anecdotes of FAs writing captains up for doing this too. And we all know who the company is going to listen to.

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Not on my ship. We will be properly catered and the FA’s will know exactly which meals are for the pilots. The fitness for duty signatures and release of the parking brake depend on it.
See above. All this is going to do is create more dissension between front and back if the company and union don't agree to and publish a policy before the implementation date. August 1 isn't when they want to convene the tiger team.
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:14 AM
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See above. All this is going to do is create more dissension between front and back if the company and union don't agree to and publish a policy before the implementation date. August 1 isn't when they want to convene the tiger team.
Not my problem.
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:16 AM
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Not my problem.
But that's the point. It is your problem. It's all of our problem. Why should we have to create conflict with an employee group that's primed to write us up, just to exercise a contractural benefit?

That's why we have a union. So as not to have to represent ourselves every day and personally fight everyone all the time.
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Tropical
I've heard plenty of anecdotes of FAs writing captains up for doing this too. And we all know who the company is going to listen to.
Any FA who wants to write me up for checking on the status & stating my choice of meal can certainly do so. Knock themselves out, in fact. The company can "listen" to them all it wants--and if they want to call me to discuss, I'll be more than happy to collect 5:15 to do so. I'll be even happier if they choose to drop a trip to make it happen. What exactly do you think would come of that??
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:24 AM
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This is what works for me:

At the END of the briefing, if I know we’re supposed to get crew meals, I say, “hey, me and the copilot hadn’t eaten this morning/all day/etc. we see we’re supposed to get crew meals on this flight. Can you check and make sure they’re loaded? When you’re done with service, can we do a break/pass them up/etc.”

Say it with a smile, set the tone, make them aware, say it last (law of recency). 60% of the time it works every time.
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Tropical
But that's the point. It is your problem. It's all of our problem. Why should we have to create conflict with an employee group that's primed to write us up, just to exercise a contractural benefit?
Imagine being this scared of being W-R-I-T-T-E-N U-P. This is going on your permanent record and you’ll never get into college now!
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:38 AM
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Imagine being this scared of being W-R-I-T-T-E-N U-P. This is going on your permanent record and you’ll never get into college now!
Your usual lame condescending hyperbole, and that says a lot coming from me.

Nobody likes a carpet dance. Even at 5:15 pay. And we all know that once you get on the radar at this company, they tend to "find" other things you did that they don't like. We also know that if push comes to shove, the FAs are going to win every time, because the company will give them anything to keep AFA off the property.

All I'm saying is why not ask the union to discuss a clear policy with the company so we don't have to take matters into our own hands. But by all means, post how you think that's dumb and we should all just go rogue.
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:40 AM
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You knew what you were insinuating. Just own it man.
I seriously have no clue what you are talking about. That trip must be taking a toll on you. C'mon over to the 73 so you can relax 😂
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