Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
06-26-2023, 02:49 PM
#2354
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,902
No. I was out on extended sick leave for four months once. I told them exactly what was going on with me and that I won't be back any sooner that XX/XX/XX. The beginning of every month, they'd call at 0645, precisely, to ask me if I was well. There was even a comment line on my schedule that said "Sick Leave until XX/XX/XX". This will probably bake your noodle, but at the time, I had one phone in the house, a landline, and it was corded, and that was the one number the Company had. No, it was not 1978, but 2011, but the cell phone was for important calls. So I would have to get up on my crutches, hobble out to the kitchen, answer the phone, and about the 3rd month in I finally asked "what does it show in the remarks?". The scheduler goes "sick leave until XX/XX/XX", and there was a pause, and the scheduler goes "uh, sorry, we just have a list".
06-26-2023, 02:53 PM
#2355
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 6,723
Never bothered me much, and reminded me to call in well once when I forgot, too
06-26-2023, 02:55 PM
#2356
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Position: Supreme Allied Commander
Posts: 1,074
I was out sick for 5 days on reserve, about to end what would have been my last day of long call, and they called me at 11pm local to see if I was still sick, if not please call in well. It was fishing by them, as I was 25hrs away from starting another reserve block, with a trip I'd be first in line for sitting in open time. I disregarded their call. They assigned the trip to a more senior reserve about 30 min later.
06-26-2023, 07:10 PM
#2358
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 271
Just to put the above post into a little context:
DAL Pilots have fairly extensive and flexible ways to modify their schedule via adding, dropping and swapping, both with open time (AKA "the open board") or with other pilots ("the swap board").
The ability to drop trips is predicated on the reserve coverage for each day of the trip. There is a formula that calculates reserve coverage required each day of the month based on historical data, and it changes based on a number of factors, including how much open time is on those days. That's all automated, so there's no putting a thumb on the scale. The other number is "reserves available", which is what it says, the number of reserve pilots available on that day...mostly.
If the number of reserves available is greater than the number required for all days of the trip, you can simply drop the trip outright, and that's called a personal drop (PD). There's no limit on this, and you can drop to zero if you want. You can then be off, pick up something else, etc over those days. You can also place a trip for pick up on the swap board, and if someone picks it up, you're scott free. Both of these are automated.
The wrinkle is if the number of reserves available is less than required on any day. In this case, there are a couple of "silver bullets" you can use. The first is an "authorized personal drop" (APD), which you get one per year. It lets you drop a trip that only has 25% of the reserves available vs required. You get up to four days of APD, but you only need one to drop a trip (or 2 2 day trips, or 4 1 day trips) or up to 4 days of reserve. The issue with APDs is you cannot do anything else on an APD day (no pickups).
Individual vacation days (IVDs) work exactly the same as APDs, but you can peel off days of a future vacation to do the same thing. You get 2 uses per year (occurrences, IE individual trip drops), and you may use up to 6 days vacation. There are ways to get more occurrences if your category wins a sick leave contest (sigh, no, I'm not making that up), but generally most people get 2 per year, but it can be as high as 4.
It's a pretty flexible system, and for the most part, it's totally automated.
DAL Pilots have fairly extensive and flexible ways to modify their schedule via adding, dropping and swapping, both with open time (AKA "the open board") or with other pilots ("the swap board").
The ability to drop trips is predicated on the reserve coverage for each day of the trip. There is a formula that calculates reserve coverage required each day of the month based on historical data, and it changes based on a number of factors, including how much open time is on those days. That's all automated, so there's no putting a thumb on the scale. The other number is "reserves available", which is what it says, the number of reserve pilots available on that day...mostly.
If the number of reserves available is greater than the number required for all days of the trip, you can simply drop the trip outright, and that's called a personal drop (PD). There's no limit on this, and you can drop to zero if you want. You can then be off, pick up something else, etc over those days. You can also place a trip for pick up on the swap board, and if someone picks it up, you're scott free. Both of these are automated.
The wrinkle is if the number of reserves available is less than required on any day. In this case, there are a couple of "silver bullets" you can use. The first is an "authorized personal drop" (APD), which you get one per year. It lets you drop a trip that only has 25% of the reserves available vs required. You get up to four days of APD, but you only need one to drop a trip (or 2 2 day trips, or 4 1 day trips) or up to 4 days of reserve. The issue with APDs is you cannot do anything else on an APD day (no pickups).
Individual vacation days (IVDs) work exactly the same as APDs, but you can peel off days of a future vacation to do the same thing. You get 2 uses per year (occurrences, IE individual trip drops), and you may use up to 6 days vacation. There are ways to get more occurrences if your category wins a sick leave contest (sigh, no, I'm not making that up), but generally most people get 2 per year, but it can be as high as 4.
It's a pretty flexible system, and for the most part, it's totally automated.
06-26-2023, 07:26 PM
#2359
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,629
there are 9 holidays spelled out in the contract. the 25% rule does not apply to any trip that touches the 2 days before or 1 day after each holiday.
06-27-2023, 02:34 AM
#2360
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,806
To add to GF post, it simply says an APD "may" be denied during those days, not that it will be. I've had trips dropped over those days and know others who've gotten Christmas off with an APD. I wouldn't expect it to happen all the time, but put it in and let it ride, it may randomly drop as the date approaches.
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