Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
05-23-2023, 07:30 AM
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A stat few here can boast of.
05-23-2023, 09:01 AM
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The union would not have any ability to insure that outcome. If tomorrow the company announces a merger the process is simple. We attempt to negotiate a merged list. If not successful it goes to binding arbitration. No airline would agree to a staple instead of arbitration because you can’t due worse...
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED such working group will neither consider nor recommend any action that would result in any Endeavor pilot being placed on the seniority list ahead of Delta pilots or any action that would diminish the rights afforded to Endeavor pilots by EDV LOA 125 and EDV LOA 129, and...
05-23-2023, 09:27 AM
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Except 9E's MEC has already done exactly that, in a joint resolution of both DL and 9E's MEC's. Agenda Item 23-99, which reads in part (emphasis added):
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED such working group will neither consider nor recommend any action that would result in any Endeavor pilot being placed on the seniority list ahead of Delta pilots or any action that would diminish the rights afforded to Endeavor pilots by EDV LOA 125 and EDV LOA 129, and...
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED such working group will neither consider nor recommend any action that would result in any Endeavor pilot being placed on the seniority list ahead of Delta pilots or any action that would diminish the rights afforded to Endeavor pilots by EDV LOA 125 and EDV LOA 129, and...
05-23-2023, 10:02 AM
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And the AirTran MEC also agreed to a staple with SWA, as the pilot groups sole bargaining agent. That would be a hard nut to crack in a rogue lawsuit. It has been done and it can be done again. In all of the recent contentious mergers it was because the union refused to go along with it
But to your point, the only path to that is a disgruntled 9E pilot suing their own MEC. If that's true, what would stop a disgruntled former-9E-and-current-DL pilot (who would be leapfrogged with a successful suit) from countersuing and winning?
05-23-2023, 10:14 AM
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I was specifically refuting sailing's assertion that "No airline would agree to a staple instead of arbitration" as demonstrably false. 9E already has.
But to your point, the only path to that is a disgruntled 9E pilot suing their own MEC. If that's true, what would stop a disgruntled former-9E-and-current-DL pilot (who would be leapfrogged with a successful suit) from countersuing and winning?
But to your point, the only path to that is a disgruntled 9E pilot suing their own MEC. If that's true, what would stop a disgruntled former-9E-and-current-DL pilot (who would be leapfrogged with a successful suit) from countersuing and winning?
05-23-2023, 11:13 AM
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And the AirTran MEC also agreed to a staple with SWA, as the pilot groups sole bargaining agent. That would be a hard nut to crack in a rogue lawsuit. It has been done and it can be done again. In all of the recent contentious mergers it was because the union refused to go along with it
If a merger is announced ALPA merger policy would apply.
05-23-2023, 12:35 PM
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And the AirTran MEC also agreed to a staple with SWA, as the pilot groups sole bargaining agent. That would be a hard nut to crack in a rogue lawsuit. It has been done and it can be done again. In all of the recent contentious mergers it was because the union refused to go along with it
Same goes for the TWA/AMR merger. Ugly, yes, staple, no.
05-23-2023, 01:07 PM
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And the AirTran MEC also agreed to a staple with SWA, as the pilot groups sole bargaining agent. That would be a hard nut to crack in a rogue lawsuit. It has been done and it can be done again. In all of the recent contentious mergers it was because the union refused to go along with it
This would be playing with fire. Sure, someone publihed some quip about "the working group won't" do whatever. That may mean very little. Too much risk.
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