Nantonaku

Exactly. I have been saying this the whole time. There is history here and ALPA merger policy. It isn’t difficult to figure out what would happen and it wouldn’t be a staple. This discussion may have been academic three years ago but it is more in the realm of possibility now than ever before. The regional model is done.

Busdog

You’re contradicting yourself. In one breath you’re saying there won’t be a staple … I guess using some logic of career expectations, but then you end by saying the regional model is done. So exactly what are the career expectations for someone working at s regional … best bet is a staple! That’s why they have pre agreed to it … taking away any argument or legal option.

sailingfun

One last time, the arbitrator must use ALPA merger policy. It does not differentiate between regional and mainline. It does require him to consider status as a CA or FO and length of service.

sailingfun

True, but it’s a lot more like a NWA/Republic merger.

FangsF15

And career expectations. Which is…. What? To never to fly anything bigger than an RJ at regional rates, unless they flow/OTS hire at the bottom of another list (as an FO, obtw).

sailingfun

Which is why I posted the top half of the list would have no worries. If I were in the bottom third I would be a bit more concerned.

tennisguru

For those predicting a non-staple, what about the senior 9E guys who did flow to Delta already? Are people who were junior to them at 9E who didn’t flow going to now come in and jump ahead of them at Delta? That doesn’t even make sense. Everyone who stayed at 9E had the golden chance to advance their career ahead of everyone else now flowing. When they chose to pass on that chance they locked their career where they currently sit and should not be rewarded for enjoying their top 9E seniority and then still getting better seniority than those who chose to take the hit and start over at the bottom of Delta.

FangsF15

Bingo. It's almost like there has been a precedent set...

Buck Rogers

Funny thing is...everyone is in total agreement on what is right, just, and fair.
One side of the discussion seems to think that that is the Holy Grail for the way a merger MUST work out. The counter point that is being made is, "Yes, that is the way it should work, but it is not iron clad and there is risk involved if you are on the Delta list already."

I know both weren't ALPA carriers, but I seem to remember a seniority list integration that went to BINDING arbitration. At the conclusion, one side didn't like the result of the BINDING arbitration and dug their heels in and refused to accept the result. The lesson learned is ...life is life, life isn't always fair, and lawyers make a living out of pulling rabbits out of hats.

Raise your hand if you have never witnessed an "unexpected/unjust" trial outcome that left the common man scratching their head.

sailingfun

That event is why ALPA now does the joint contract first. Then the seniority integration.