Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
#2111
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So I showed up today at my appointed show time only to find out my departure is delayed 3 hours 25 minutes. I printed the rotation with the new time and there is no value for the added sit time. Even though it isn’t a sit between flights, should the FO and I be paid for our newly found sit time?
#2112
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So I showed up today at my appointed show time only to find out my departure is delayed 3 hours 25 minutes. I printed the rotation with the new time and there is no value for the added sit time. Even though it isn’t a sit between flights, should the FO and I be paid for our newly found sit time?
if you have a 1 hour turn and the second flight delays 3 hours, turning it into a 4 hour sit, you are not due sit pay.
#2114
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
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I'm assuming it's possible, but just beware that any block/trip credit in the reserve month goes towards your reserve guarantee, not on top. So unless your trying to fill up for the month you'll basically be working for free on your days off.
#2115
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I realize that part, but if I had all "on cal" days the first few days of the month anyway, you think the pickup from the swap board would go through? I don't want to make those days available unless I'm relatively sure I can get what I want.
#2116
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#2117
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
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Why did the US Airways - Reno Air situation happen? I"m sure the lawyers "never thought of that".. and with everyone who challenges a pre-nuptial agreement... wasn't that a binding document? Challenges seem to happen often to high net worth people and the challengers seems to make out just fine. I think you're a bit naive if you think legal approval from the ALPA lawyers is the end-be-all of legal advice and other lawyers can't find their way around it if they think the payout is high enough.
Imagine this situation - took me all of 1 minute to come up with it.. and I'm not even a lawyer:
Delta brings on EDV pilots to the company, adds them to the bottom of the list (a staple) as per the "agreement" that DAL ALPA and EDV ALPA agree to.
The senior pilots complain, and say "we didn't agree to this!" and get a law firm to sue for "Right to fair representation" because there should of been a merged seniority list, and ALPA is ignoring the 2007 law that requires using Allegany-Mohawk which specifies: "insofar as the merger affects the seniority rights of the carriers’ employees, provisions shall be made for the integration of seniority lists in a fair and equitable manner, including, where applicable, agreement through collective bargaining between the carriers and representatives of the employees affected."They also want DOH, as they have been part of Delta for years, making all of them senior enough to hold Captain on the next AE.
Discussions ensue...
An agreement is made, rather than it going to arbitration where the EDV pilots are ratioed in, starting at earliest EDV flow and eventually will hold their original EDV seniority, just not right away. Over time they can bid a certain number of Captain slots on AEs. ALPA says, "well, it's better than DOH, which is what they wanted, and they might of gotten had it gone to arbitration."
Not possible? I'd say it has a medium to high chance of actually happening if Delta does that.
Imagine this situation - took me all of 1 minute to come up with it.. and I'm not even a lawyer:
Delta brings on EDV pilots to the company, adds them to the bottom of the list (a staple) as per the "agreement" that DAL ALPA and EDV ALPA agree to.
The senior pilots complain, and say "we didn't agree to this!" and get a law firm to sue for "Right to fair representation" because there should of been a merged seniority list, and ALPA is ignoring the 2007 law that requires using Allegany-Mohawk which specifies: "insofar as the merger affects the seniority rights of the carriers’ employees, provisions shall be made for the integration of seniority lists in a fair and equitable manner, including, where applicable, agreement through collective bargaining between the carriers and representatives of the employees affected."They also want DOH, as they have been part of Delta for years, making all of them senior enough to hold Captain on the next AE.
Discussions ensue...
An agreement is made, rather than it going to arbitration where the EDV pilots are ratioed in, starting at earliest EDV flow and eventually will hold their original EDV seniority, just not right away. Over time they can bid a certain number of Captain slots on AEs. ALPA says, "well, it's better than DOH, which is what they wanted, and they might of gotten had it gone to arbitration."
Not possible? I'd say it has a medium to high chance of actually happening if Delta does that.
#2118
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Joined APC: Nov 2020
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Well to update after moving my on call days to cover the PSB would not allow me to pick up the trip. Gives bogus 30/168 rest violation. Call skeds and they say effectively “yeah should be able to go through without PWA or FAR violation but we can’t overrule any pcs buffers (even though they agree it makes no sense). They suggest just to grieve it. Nice support we get from skeds.
#2119
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Sched Alert 19-03
Well to update after moving my on call days to cover the PSB would not allow me to pick up the trip. Gives bogus 30/168 rest violation. Call skeds and they say effectively “yeah should be able to go through without PWA or FAR violation but we can’t overrule any pcs buffers (even though they agree it makes no sense). They suggest just to grieve it. Nice support we get from skeds.
https://dal.alpa.org/Portals/1/Docum...lert-19-03.pdf
#2120
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Joined APC: Nov 2020
Posts: 1,891
You sure none of the buffers in Sched Alert 19-03 came into play?
https://dal.alpa.org/Portals/1/Docum...lert-19-03.pdf
https://dal.alpa.org/Portals/1/Docum...lert-19-03.pdf
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