Planetrain

No they wouldn’t.
Over 100 seats, under 100 seats. Two categories at integration (not fences). Meets career expectations. No windfalls at the expense of another group.

FangsF15

Exactly. The idea that current E9 pilots would jump ahead of any of the hundreds of pilots who have already flowed, off the very top of E9’s seniority list no less, is absurd. As is the idea it would have the slightest traction with a court, or that ALPA would “settle” against their own governance. Absurd.

Hrkdrivr

So you’re saying there’s a chance! /sarc

Nantonaku

If arbitrated anything can happen. But why do you think this integration would be any different than all other ALPA mergers? And why would the line get drawn at 100 seats? If anything it would be 76 seats. The most likely outcome of an arbitration is pretty easy to predict as we have a larger number of examples cases of how this works. Stovepipe captains from both companies by plane size and then do the same for FO’s. In the last 30 years where/when did a full staple happen between two ALPA carriers?

Nantonaku

Just as absurd as thinking 25 year captains will agree to a staple so they can be FO’s for the last 5 years of their career.

nene

Slavery was ended legally with the passage of the 13th amendment. Everyone is free to leave and find other more suitable employment. Many startups are hiring direct entry captains.

Nantonaku

Or just lawyer up, which is what would happen here.

Mesabah

Being greater than 50% in the left seat of an RJ at mainline is something I would sign up for... E175 or 195 of course . Buying these planes before the emissions switch in 2028 is a good idea, since they can do the short routes more efficient.

capncrunch

Give them a fence so they can remain a senior RJ captain. If they want to bid off the RJ then it’s their flow seniority.

FangsF15

You are aware that DL has many E9 Captains that have done exactly that (for even less time than that) via the flow, right?

Not to mention that E9's MEC, the legal representation for E9's pilots, just agreed to exactly that? It will never happen, btw, so this is all academic anyway.

But, explain to us all how you think it's right or a "fair" SL integration to have former E9 pilots, who flowed to Delta already as part of an expected career progression, suddenly be leapfrogged by pilots who were junior to them at E9? No judge in the world is going to find that a compelling argument. Because it's absurd.

But even if... I don't understand anyone you think some 'rogue' E9 pilots will strike out on their own with a lawsuit and win, yet you think those leapfrogged pilots will NOT also file a countersuit? Has any pilot EVER left Delta for a regional carrier? Ever? No. There is your answer.