myrkridia

How so? With the exception of the 12 month break for new hires (which comes with stipulations) most of us are still locked.

Wolf424

75% of my new hire class had a seat lock after MOAB. Of those, half tried unsuccessfully to bid for WBB during their lock in hopes the company would release them. I imagine that’s not isolated to one class. There is pent up demand for sure.

iLikeMoose

Potential new guy here trying to gauge QOL on NB fleets in ATL. Through the widget seniority website I see that the junior CA's in ATL have been with y'all about a year. With the current pace of hiring, should I expect that to be similar for someone hired this summer? Is the new contract expected to have an effect on NB upgrade times? As an FO or a junior CA, what are reserve times like, and how long before you're not working every weekend? Have used the search function but haven't found much too much that addresses that specifically, updated for mid 2023. Thanks!

PhilMcCrackin

When can we expect training to begin for the next Ae? September?

DWC CAP10 USAF

First day of bid period following the AE closing.

higney85

I think the next AE will have good movement. The 330 category will be senior in both seats. 350B will be the junior WBB seat. 320A will go senior to 7ERA, 73NA, and top end will be senior in 717A in ATL, with bottom being filled by junior (potential)CA’s missing by %bids. Many locks were released on 4/1 from the post COVID bid. I’ll personally likely move and those I know in the same realm will be doing the same. There’s a group in the 8000-10500 realm who got locked with a COVID release bid that now can move freely to WBB (seams the mainstay) or saying “I’ll just upgrade, if seniority works for xy%)”. It’ll be interesting. Lots of WBA retirements with deliveries on the NB side, plus reactivations on the 717 side in ATL and DTW. Being that hiring continues, retirements continue, and we keep bringing on jets, the math works for movement. The new PWA (contract) alone requires more staffing for the same flying. Still optimistically curious (if that’s a term) how this will play out, especially with SLI’s (sim instructors) sent to the line for summer, but needing to bolster the rosters for available pilots with new PWA language that hits in august. We either get paid a lot more to fly NB rotations as built OR we need many more pilots to build normal trips without pay additions for working harder. Chicken vs egg argument. Only a few months away to see the sodomizer results. We either get pilots and normal pairings or pay for complaining.

contrails

Let's say CQ ends with a D period. Travel day back to base the following day. Reserve days after that.

Because of flying before CQ, there is a need for 30 hours of rest in 168 hours.

Is the rest able to start 10 hours after the sim session ends (i.e. around 08:00 the following morning) and then go for 30 hours, despite the pilot's travel back to base being during that time?

Travel to base within the 30/168 rest is okay because it's not FDP...but it's not free from company obligations either.

Anyone had this?

GogglesPisano

Travel would be considered DH and not rest. If you fish around iCrew you will find when the "on paper" Travel flight blocks in.

tennisguru

Read scheduling alert 19-01. Basically you are free of all reserve obligations on any training day or scheduled travel day, plus you are guaranteed 9 hours free after the completion of your sim (if ATL based) or the release of your scheduled DH (if non-ATL based). So if your DH is scheduled to arrive at 1700, you are free of all duty for 9 hours until 0200 the next day, at which point you are on LC starting at 0201. The 9 hours of rest is prospective, and what scheduling can do is add 21 more hours of rest after your DH to give you 30 hours. They MUST notify you of this rest period while you are on LC or else it won't be prospective and won't be legal since you are under no obligation to be contactable starting at midnight on your travel day to training/first training day (as appropriate). If they do not add rest or notify you before CQ then you will eventually be illegal for any FDP, and the earliest they could then put you into rest and notify you would be starting at 0201 the day following training (in my example with a DH release at 1700). If your DH releases say at noon you are still guaranteed the 9 hours, but you do not go on LC until midnight. Scheduling can still pre-assign your 30 hours of rest (again they must notify you while you are on LC) by giving you rest from 1200 following your DH to 1800 the next day.

dbrownie

are you sure about this? I was a 1997 hire at NWA and it was a huge year for us…memory could be off however