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Old 04-25-2023, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RightSide
I called in sick, then when I called in well I noticed my greenslip pay was gone for the month. This definitely isn’t correct right?
It does not sound right. Is your trip still showing as open? Sick time counts toward the trigger so hopefully it will correct when your trip gets closed out. Unless of course you called in well before the end of the trip in which case you will use less sick leave but your credit could drop below the trigger.

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Old 04-25-2023, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
It does not sound right. Is your trip still showing as open? Sick time counts toward the trigger so hopefully it will correct when your trip gets closed out. Unless of course you called in well before the end of the trip in which case you will use less sick leave but your credit could drop below the trigger.

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Thanks Scoop, it still shows open. I called in for a 3 day and called in well day 2 but suddenly my credit dropped below the trigger and my greenslip went away. I’ll keep an eye on when it closes and hopefully see my pay come back.

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Old 04-26-2023, 03:50 AM
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Scheduling said because I called in well on day 2 I only get paid for two days and not the last day. The supervisor confirmed this. This has never been the case in years past. If that was the case, why would I call in well? Can anyone confirm? I’m going to have to pull up the contract when I get home.
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Old 04-26-2023, 03:59 AM
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Scheduling said because I called in well on day 2 I only get paid for two days and not the last day. The supervisor confirmed this. This has never been the case in years past. If that was the case, why would I call in well? Can anyone confirm? I’m going to have to pull up the contract when I get home.
This is absolutely garbage. You get paid for the whole trip. Call back and if they give you the same run around, call the CPO.
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Old 04-26-2023, 04:03 AM
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This is absolutely garbage. You get paid for the whole trip. Call back and if they give you the same run around, call the CPO.
That’s what I thought. It’s never been an issue in 7 years so I thought something changed. Will call back again. Thanks CBreezy.
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Old 04-26-2023, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
If you jumped through the hoops for free money in your workplace savings account, double check that backup withholding was not selected by default. It appears my account was automatically enrolled in backup withholding.
Any easy place to check? Not seeing it in fidelity app or in goal booster… thanks for the point in the right direction.
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Old 04-26-2023, 04:37 AM
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This is absolutely garbage. You get paid for the whole trip. Call back and if they give you the same run around, call the CPO.
Precicely. 14.E.1.a.1 And also ask them why would the PWA contain a provision to ‘fly back’ sick time in 14.E.2.b.

File an FCR about that too. CS must be held accountable for making crap up on the fly. It’s unacceptable.

I also have serious doubts “a supervisor confirmed this”. A supervisor should absolutely know better. I suspect the CS’er lied to you about that, and an FCR is the ONLY way to ensure accountability. Please file one with as much detail and times so they can pull the tape.

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Old 04-26-2023, 05:28 AM
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Scheduling said because I called in well on day 2 I only get paid for two days and not the last day. The supervisor confirmed this. This has never been the case in years past. If that was the case, why would I call in well? Can anyone confirm? I’m going to have to pull up the contract when I get home.

That is the way I always remembered it. I don't believe this is a change. I also think that is why most Pilots will not call in
"well" mid trip unless they want to fly something else. Think about it - if you are saying you are "well" on day 2 they are not going to pay you sick pay for day 3. The reason we probably have this rule is because GS Ninjas would routinely call in sick for a trip and then call in well before the trip was over if they saw a GS opportunity. If they were still getting paid for a trip after calling in well they would not be eligible for a GS.

But more importantly you want to reach the GS trigger. First off borrow 5 hours from the bank - that will probably fix the issue since we are only talking 1 sick-day and enable you to hit the trigger. You can do this and then immediately check your time-card. If that does not work try to WS a one day trip, if your category has them. Some of the older guys remember a term "Protect Essential" once you fly a GS you must "Protect the trigger." Good luck!

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Old 04-26-2023, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
That is the way I always remembered it. I don't believe this is a change. I also think that is why most Pilots will not call in
"well" mid trip unless they want to fly something else. Think about it - if you are saying you are "well" on day 2 they are not going to pay you sick pay for day 3. The reason we probably have this rule is because GS Ninjas would routinely call in sick for a trip and then call in well before the trip was over if they saw a GS opportunity. If they were still getting paid for a trip after calling in well they would not be eligible for a GS.
That's not right Scoop. It used to be that way, but we changed it the same time we added the ability to "fly back" sick time if you pick up a trip after calling in well that touched the footprint of the original trip you were sick for. I don't recall if that was done in TA2 or if it was C2012, but one of those changed it. If you are out sick and call in well mid rotation, you are paid sick leave hours for the entire trip. You then have the option to pick something up and fly back the hours used from your sick bank to cover the time after you called in well, if you choose to. This was done to eliminate pilot's waiting till the trip was over to call in well. Call in well as soon as you are well and there is not a pay consequence for it being mid rotation.

RightSide should follow FangsF15's suggestion.
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Old 04-26-2023, 07:09 AM
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That's not right Scoop. It used to be that way, but we changed it the same time we added the ability to "fly back" sick time if you pick up a trip after calling in well that touched the footprint of the original trip you were sick for. I don't recall if that was done in TA2 or if it was C2012, but one of those changed it. If you are out sick and call in well mid rotation, you are paid sick leave hours for the entire trip. You then have the option to pick something up and fly back the hours used from your sick bank to cover the time after you called in well, if you choose to. This was done to eliminate pilot's waiting till the trip was over to call in well. Call in well as soon as you are well and there is not a pay consequence for it being mid rotation.

RightSide should follow FangsF15's suggestion.
Well it won't be the first time I was wrong but for some reason I remember it that way. I could easily be confusing past contracts.

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