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Old 12-18-2022, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
If CS doesn’t call to release you from a trip with OE, do you just show up and DH for entertainment?
What plane are you on? On narrowbodies if CS doesn't release you the evening prior, the LCA will release you but maybe not until report time unfortunately. I'm not sure about WB stuff.
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Old 12-18-2022, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
What plane are you on? On narrowbodies if CS doesn't release you the evening prior, the LCA will release you but maybe not until report time unfortunately. I'm not sure about WB stuff.
You can always just call CS and ask. I did that last month around 3pm the day prior. They said sure no problem, put a gs in if you want one.
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Old 12-18-2022, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
What plane are you on? On narrowbodies if CS doesn't release you the evening prior, the LCA will release you but maybe not until report time unfortunately. I'm not sure about WB stuff.
Thanks. I’ll check with CS before heading to work.
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Old 12-18-2022, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
What plane are you on? On narrowbodies if CS doesn't release you the evening prior, the LCA will release you but maybe not until report time unfortunately. I'm not sure about WB stuff.
I've met one LCA who refused to release a pilot until both FO's were at the gate. I was local and it was bad enough, but I'd be livid if i had had to commute in just for this guy to prove a point.
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Old 12-19-2022, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
If CS doesn’t call to release you from a trip with OE, do you just show up and DH for entertainment?

For some reason I thought you were on the 330? If so, you may very well not get released, I never did. They just took both of us FO's, blocked off 1A and we just spent a lot of time on break. Not a bad gig, but not nearly as good as getting released.
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Old 12-19-2022, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
If CS doesn’t call to release you from a trip with OE, do you just show up and DH for entertainment?
On the 330/350, no. You work it with 2 x RFO if it’s TOE (which is 99% of the time). Unless it’s a domestic OE leg, then you may be released. Usually the LCA lets CS know you’re released and then I call them to get released.
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Old 12-19-2022, 03:16 AM
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Before Ed took over FO's were always released the evening prior to the trip when IOE was scheduled (except during weather IROPS). Now it is far from that.
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Old 12-19-2022, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat
I've met one LCA who refused to release a pilot until both FO's were at the gate. I was local and it was bad enough, but I'd be livid if i had had to commute in just for this guy to prove a point.
I bet he wears his hat too.
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Old 12-19-2022, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat
I've met one LCA who refused to release a pilot until both FO's were at the gate. I was local and it was bad enough, but I'd be livid if i had had to commute in just for this guy to prove a point.
I think this comes from their boss, the lead LCA. They are told not to release FO's and to let scheduling do it (which probably comes from Ed) .If you read 23G in the PWA it doesn't mention scheduling but says the LCA is the one who can release FO's.
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Old 12-19-2022, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat
I've met one LCA who refused to release a pilot until both FO's were at the gate. I was local and it was bad enough, but I'd be livid if i had had to commute in just for this guy to prove a point.
It's not up to LCA's anymore unless a it's a SAQ. We have no input.

Also, if it's TOE everyone has to sign-in.
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