m3113n1a1

SWA pilots got 12.3% in 2019. What did we get? I think it was similar, that's all I'm saying. (I genuinely don't remember the number and can't find it anywhere).

Planetrain

DL 16.6% for 2019 (paid 2/20)

saturn

So from a pilot compensation POV, say a sample pilot who made $250k at both airlines in 2019..Delta got $40k PS check, SW got $32k. Delta got a 25% more vs SW..not double UA/SW/AA combinded.

Baradium

Respectfully, are you actually reading this thread? The point isn't about how much an individual pilot got, it's that Delta is more financially sound than UAL and AA qnd thus paid out more in total. Seniority doesn't matter if the company doesn't exist anymore. I don't expect any of the majors to cease to exist but especially AA"s numbers are worth considering.

3 green

Southwest basically earned a profit sharing payout at the end of 2021 leading into 2022 when they were paying 1.5x for all trips and 2x for any trip in open time. My buddies over there made a killing during that period...

Trip7

Pilots are hilarious. C2012 pilots were screaming to bring all RJ flying in house when the deal expanded large RJs but significantly reduced 50 seaters replacing athat flying with the 717. Couple years later when Management proposed removing all 50 seaters in exchange for a few more large RJs before C2016 there was an uproar. Fast forward to today the regional are collapsing due to staffing so the 717, 320, and 737 are forced to take more RJ style flying and mainline pilots are now acting like that flying us beyond them. This is just whining for the sake of whining.

The reason Delta has not only hired more pilots than any other carrier in the last 10 years is because Management made the smart decision to expand mainline flying where it makes the most money, it's domestic network. Delta is the only maninline carrier with a robust Small Narrowbody fleet of 717s and A220s "RJs" which has created a robust, reliable, and flexible domestic network. This also creates a customer experience that is unparalleled compared to our competitors RJs leading to Delta's ability to command a revenue premium. Furthermore, this revenue premium has led to robust profit sharing for Delta employees

For all the complaining some Delta pilots do about WB flying, it's ironic that no other airline with more Widebodies has hired more. Moreover, no other carrier has had even close to as much profit sharing.

Most hiring, Most Profit sharing. And New Hires are going to the 765. With that said if a pilot were going to choose a carrier based solely on retirement based seniority progression AA would be the clear choice

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Crown

Trip, I actually agreed with most of your post; just cutting it for one point.

If you're excited about potential future plans, I'd look at United. They're adding a ton of airplanes for growth + the possibility of flying supersonic (although I think they'll only have 69 seats on it and thus Scope it to Mesa...) and frankly, opportunity to make big money younger in the career. 2 year widebody FO is a very realistic possibility there; at DL it's not as likely.

But your point about the fact that Delta has a robust domestic network is absolutely true. And it does rake in the cash. Pre-Covid of course. Let's see what shakes out for the rest of 2022.

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JamesBond

Yeaaaaah I'm gonna have to agree with this one.

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