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Old 08-03-2022, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Exactly this
Maybe what they meant but not what they said. I also can guarantee you the average age is well below 62.4. Half my class was gone before 60.
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Old 08-03-2022, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Well what is true? At one of the company roadshows that is exactly what they stated. I mean apply a little common sense and think about it. One of the old rules of thumb was always half the pilots would not make it to age 60. A few fired, a bunch medicaled out and others leaving early. So at 60 you are down to half gone. From 60 to 62 the company has seen a high attrition rate on top of the pre 60 losses. The strange part and what I don’t understand is from 63 to 65 the attrition rate was very low which is not what I expected. All of this is pre MOAD which should have reduced that 2.4 years even more and was a huge seniority boost for the bottom half of the list.

You solved your own riddle - if that many Pilots did not make it until 60 the average age pre-rule change was probably about 57-58 and now it is around 62 1/2. I think you were comparing 62 1/2 to 60 not 62 1/2 to 58 or 57.

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Old 08-03-2022, 01:45 PM
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You solved your own riddle - if that many Pilots did not make it until 60 the average age pre-rule change was probably about 57-58 and now it is around 62 1/2. I think you were comparing 62 1/2 to 60 not 62 1/2 to 58 or 57.

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Exactly this
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Old 08-03-2022, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
You solved your own riddle - if that many Pilots did not make it until 60 the average age pre-rule change was probably about 57-58 and now it is around 62 1/2. I think you were comparing 62 1/2 to 60 not 62 1/2 to 58 or 57.

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So in that case you are saying every pilot who makes it to 60 continues to 65?
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Old 08-03-2022, 02:53 PM
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So in that case you are saying every pilot who makes it to 60 continues to 65?
no, they’re saying that pre-2008, the average retirement age was 57-58, and it’s ~62-63 now
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Old 08-03-2022, 04:02 PM
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no, they’re saying that pre-2008, the average retirement age was 57-58, and it’s ~62-63 now
Well that means every pilot reaching 57 to 58 must stay the full five to change the age to 62 to 63.
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Old 08-03-2022, 04:10 PM
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A table citing the age/number of Delta pilots retiring after 2007 (Age 65 rule change date?) would be interesting.

As would the decade prior to 2007 when the age 60 rule was in effect.

"Voluntary" vs "Medical reasons" would also be nice. If for no other reason to give realistic longevity expectations for pilots retirement planning.

Is this data even compiled?
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Well that means every pilot reaching 57 to 58 must stay the full five to change the age to 62 to 63.
No it doesn't. Some stay even longer to 65. Some stay less. Hence it being an AVERAGE.
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Old 08-03-2022, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
No it doesn't. Some stay even longer to 65. Some stay less. Hence it being an AVERAGE.
Ok, how many pilots do you know who have stayed at Delta beyond 65? This is getting inane.
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Ok, how many pilots do you know who have stayed at Delta beyond 65? This is getting inane.
what on earth are you talking about?
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