Originally Posted by notEnuf

Absolutely but they knew that going in. For me it was 60 and the stagnation was imposed mid-career. And as I said earlier, we have to deal with it, which I am /have.

Originally Posted by O R C A

Wrong. After $100,000 sunk for flight school, bachelors, and instructing for 1.5 years they changed the age limit. Ended up spending an additional 5 years as a regional FO (9 years total FO pay) If I saw that outcome prior to college I would have chose a different path. That’s also why regional pay is sky rocketing now. Many have would be pilots have seen my generations career, and opted for a different field.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Just curious how old you were when hired by a major. You by the way did not get 5 more years as a result of age 65. At Delta the age change caused a increase of 2.4 years in the average retirement age.

Originally Posted by O R C A

Wrong. After $100,000 sunk for flight school, bachelors, and instructing for 1.5 years they changed the age limit. Ended up spending an additional 5 years as a regional FO (9 years total FO pay) If I saw that outcome prior to college I would have chose a different path. That’s also why regional pay is sky rocketing now. Many have would be pilots have seen my generations career, and opted for a different field.

Originally Posted by Nantonaku

No one cares when you are regional FO making less than $20K how many years pilots at Delta work. What was the industry average?

Originally Posted by LandGreen2

How old are you? If your answer is below 60 then your view of the world is completely different than those folks that are approaching retirement.

Imagine a widowed pilot 64y/o, good health, kids are married with their families busy with their own lives.

Option 1: Retire and live comfortably but too much free time for this active pilot, even after renovating house, building an RV 12, etc.

Option 2: If 67 passed, Fly one to two nice Rome (fill in the blank fav layover) trips and PD, VACA or other the rest of the month trips.

No brainer what this individual would do. So sure...in your current snapshot in life you "can't believe pilots want to fly to 65 much less 67" but snapshots in life are a funny and terrifying thing: we are all just one doctors visit from radically changing what our plans are for life. The old saying if you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans rings very true when you get past age 50.

I am sure very few pilots "need" to fly financially after 65 compared to "wanting" to fly because they enjoy the job, socialization, challenge...whatever it might be.

Just food for thought

Originally Posted by saturn

Option 2 is not valid. You can't fly international. So you instead will have to displace a jr NB CA. OBTW the grid is all below min staffing and the ALV this month is 83hrs. Good luck with your part time schedule flying in and out of the LGAs and MCOs.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Just curious how old you were when hired by a major. You by the way did not get 5 more years as a result of age 65. At Delta the age change caused a increase of 2.4 years in the average retirement age.

Originally Posted by O R C A

Wrong. After $100,000 sunk for flight school, bachelors, and instructing for 1.5 years they changed the age limit. Ended up spending an additional 5 years as a regional FO (9 years total FO pay) If I saw that outcome prior to college I would have chose a different path. That’s also why regional pay is sky rocketing now. Many have would be pilots have seen my generations career, and opted for a different field.

Originally Posted by notEnuf

The point is we all have had or will have our expectations dashed and they will not be reality. I'm not for 67 but I will have to deal with it if that becomes a thing.