Pilot morale
03-17-2022, 08:04 PM
#81
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 189
I personally always see the FU jet even when I fly it. I was/will always be an UNA i very much remember how they treated us. They can go pound as much sand as Ed has lost sleep over.
No amount of TYFAD will solve that problem they created. I will always remember I'm just a number and thus they are always just a number to me. I will always be doing minimal effort until I retire in 30 years. IDGAS about the delta difference these days. The only difference I care about is how much $ I'm loosing by being here compared to my peers. FUPM!
No amount of TYFAD will solve that problem they created. I will always remember I'm just a number and thus they are always just a number to me. I will always be doing minimal effort until I retire in 30 years. IDGAS about the delta difference these days. The only difference I care about is how much $ I'm loosing by being here compared to my peers. FUPM!
You could always go join your peers, where you will stop loosing(sp?) money.
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03-17-2022, 08:09 PM
#82
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 320A
Posts: 913
How you were treated as a UNA? It was stressful but you were paid the entire time (acknowledging that was largely due to CARES).
Had to do an extra lap or two on VA Ave? Me too (not UNA.)
Ask the 9/11 furloughees if they’d trade stories with you.
Now you’re saying you’re going to pitch a multi-decade fit? Grow up.
You can be an adult professional while still advocating for better working conditions. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Maybe you’re venting?
Had to do an extra lap or two on VA Ave? Me too (not UNA.)
Ask the 9/11 furloughees if they’d trade stories with you.
Now you’re saying you’re going to pitch a multi-decade fit? Grow up.
You can be an adult professional while still advocating for better working conditions. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Maybe you’re venting?
I will be very professional as I have always been but strictly by the contract and nothing more. Nothing extra nada thing.
03-17-2022, 08:12 PM
#83
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,246
Multiple furlough letters not being able to plan your life. Yeah you wouldn't understand. Each genration has its own lost genration where the previous group doesn't think the new group has gone though enough to deserve recognition. It's sad that that's how it's still done to this day.
I will be very professional as I have always been but strictly by the contract and nothing more. Nothing extra nada thing.
I will be very professional as I have always been but strictly by the contract and nothing more. Nothing extra nada thing.
03-17-2022, 08:13 PM
#84
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Capt
Posts: 2,049
“Our” trips don’t mirror SW trips. I noticed how you made sure you avoided the comparison. Just that our trip pay is “better”.
03-17-2022, 08:14 PM
#85
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 320A
Posts: 913
03-17-2022, 08:16 PM
#86
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Position: 320A
Posts: 913
03-17-2022, 08:19 PM
#87
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: DAL FO
Posts: 2,174
Multiple furlough letters not being able to plan your life. Yeah you wouldn't understand. Each genration has its own lost genration where the previous group doesn't think the new group has gone though enough to deserve recognition. It's sad that that's how it's still done to this day.
I will be very professional as I have always been but strictly by the contract and nothing more. Nothing extra nada thing.
I will be very professional as I have always been but strictly by the contract and nothing more. Nothing extra nada thing.
I’m sorry you all had to go through the uncertainty but in the grand scheme of life’s “injustices” that was a big nothing burger. I’m extremely happy everyone is back and rocketing upwards in opportunity.
Just a little friendly advice that you can obviously ignore. Don’t martyr yourself. 30 years is too long to be angry about the UNA blip.
03-17-2022, 08:23 PM
#88
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 320A
Posts: 913
No problem with fly the contract. Especially in section 6.
I’m sorry you all had to go through the uncertainty but in the grand scheme of life’s “injustices” that was a big nothing burger. I’m extremely happy everyone is back and rocketing upwards in opportunity.
Just a little friendly advice that you can obviously ignore. Don’t martyr yourself. 30 years is too long to be angry about the UNA blip.
I’m sorry you all had to go through the uncertainty but in the grand scheme of life’s “injustices” that was a big nothing burger. I’m extremely happy everyone is back and rocketing upwards in opportunity.
Just a little friendly advice that you can obviously ignore. Don’t martyr yourself. 30 years is too long to be angry about the UNA blip.
Doing more than minimal has gotten us horrid rotations, short overnights, and TYFAD with no real improvements in 2.5 years...continuing to do the same thing and expecting different results is just the definition to insanity. Break the trend!
Last edited by Der Meister; 03-17-2022 at 08:34 PM.
03-17-2022, 08:57 PM
#89
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,558
How you were treated as a UNA? It was stressful but you were paid the entire time (acknowledging that was largely due to CARES).
Had to do an extra lap or two on VA Ave? Me too (not UNA.)
Ask the 9/11 furloughees if they’d trade stories with you.
Now you’re saying you’re going to pitch a multi-decade fit? Grow up.
You can be an adult professional while still advocating for better working conditions. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Maybe you’re venting?
Had to do an extra lap or two on VA Ave? Me too (not UNA.)
Ask the 9/11 furloughees if they’d trade stories with you.
Now you’re saying you’re going to pitch a multi-decade fit? Grow up.
You can be an adult professional while still advocating for better working conditions. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Maybe you’re venting?
03-17-2022, 09:16 PM
#90
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 320A
Posts: 913
All I will forward with is how UAL creates the sense of union from day one with half wings, eight ball ect...
Here at DAL it's dog eat dog. Our group has no sense of union and instead creates an entitlement of mine (see DZ, see non DZ, see lost era, see una, see ect...) it was fantastic to see all the GS go out while there were people out on UNA. You got yours so who cares about the una people. After all they deserved it for being JR at major airline....how foolish of them to think they made it and would be covered by DALPA...
I'm sure Delta management is quite pleased with the infighting as they don't actually have to do anything. As it generally better than it was and worse than it is. So with our method no one wins and everyone loses.
Here at DAL it's dog eat dog. Our group has no sense of union and instead creates an entitlement of mine (see DZ, see non DZ, see lost era, see una, see ect...) it was fantastic to see all the GS go out while there were people out on UNA. You got yours so who cares about the una people. After all they deserved it for being JR at major airline....how foolish of them to think they made it and would be covered by DALPA...
I'm sure Delta management is quite pleased with the infighting as they don't actually have to do anything. As it generally better than it was and worse than it is. So with our method no one wins and everyone loses.
Last edited by Der Meister; 03-17-2022 at 09:28 PM.
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