gloopy

The PB days is one issue. It appears we agree that is laughably unreasonable. Burn one day off get one PB day (plus any applicable partial, which sometimes becomes 2). That's fair. Get 5-6 should/will never happen.

But so too is the pay he was advocating for. GS'ing a 5 day on your last day off will never, nor should ever, pay 5 days. Lamenting over "good deals" like that just shifts that costing of someone's little Easter egg onto the entire CBA.

One reasonable improvement in that exact section would be to guarantee ADG for the day GS'd on an off day. I may be wrong on this, but IIRC, right now a "partial" GS (my vernacular) only pays the block on that day with all the rest (aka "credit") going onto the reserve days GAR aka "for free" in most cases, right? That could be something we could fix and would be reasonable to do so.

Gspeed

The status of the airline operation should have no bearing on whether or not you call in fatigued. It really is that simple.

Whoopsmybad

This. You can’t be a “hero” if you are falling asleep behind the yoke/side stick. It happens, call it if you need it. Let the people writing these schedules figure it out.

Der Meister

Exactly we don't build the rotations nore set the staffing level. If you're fatigued you're fatigued, if you're tired youre tired, if you're sick you're sick. It's not your problem at all it's the companies for poor planning/staffing. You're not helping anyone by going over and above to get the mission done.

Grease

You’re definitely a wuss. But you’re a wuss that’s alive and mishap-free, which is the best kind. 👍

cantflylist

What is that saying about pilots being old or bold? All I know is I am an old and bald pilot - yeah that's it

queuetip

Out of curiosity, has anyone tried calling in fatigued after a long duty day to extend their rest? For example, finish 11 hours of duty, while in the van, call the duty pilot, let them know that you won't be ready for pickup for 12 hours instead of the 10 scheduled, please and thank you? It's getting to the point where I need to start fixing my own rest issues.

FL370esq

I haven't personally done so but that is exactly what you are supposed to do. Call in and tell them you are fatigued and that you need 12 hours of rest before you will be able to continue.

Bergman

“Son, we’re not going to war. We’re going to Cleveland. We get there when we get there”

crewdawg

In fairness, parts of Cleveland resemble a war zone, so one could understand the confusion.