Contract 2022
01-09-2022, 08:44 AM
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
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Inflation being sub 2% vs over 6% is a massive change. We are currently experiencing the worst inflation in about 40 years. Not sure why you think this isn’t new.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.co...-1913-to-2008/
the far right column on this page shows inflation by year, only 2 times from 2007-2020 was it above 3%. So HOW MUCH inflation is taking from us right new is definitely a new problem.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.co...-1913-to-2008/
the far right column on this page shows inflation by year, only 2 times from 2007-2020 was it above 3%. So HOW MUCH inflation is taking from us right new is definitely a new problem.
01-09-2022, 08:47 AM
#42
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 391
Can somebody please explain to me - perhaps with sock puppets and catchy songs - the pros and cons of ADG vs MDC? The MDC people are very passionate and I do not understand. One side is all “something something, it worked really great at my regional” and the other side is “something, something our rotations and/or commutability will be even worse.”
01-09-2022, 08:55 AM
#43
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
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day 1 -3 legs, 7 hours block
day 2 -2 legs, 5 hour of block
day 3 - 30 hour overnight
day 4 - 3 legs, 6 hours of block
with ADG you would be guaranteed an average of 5:15 per calendar day in this example you block 18 but the average of 5:15x4 would be 21 so the trip would pay 21 hours
with MDG you would get 5:15 minimum for each day. Since day 2 and 3 were below this, their credit would be 5:15 while still getting 7 and 6 hours pay for day 1 and 4. In this example the trip would pay 23.5 hours (7+ 5.25+ 5.25+ 6)*
*5:15=5.25
01-09-2022, 08:58 AM
#44
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
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As far as the crew meals go. What if we did it like the other airlines do it where gasp! You actually got to choose your meal before the flight? You get to pick from the selection of meals offered to FC on that route and an extra one is put on for you. Ordering for food when your schedule is out, for reserves you have a list of options you want ranked and then catering puts the meal on the aircraft specfor you. The other major airlines have figured this out its just our air line hasn't..
01-09-2022, 08:58 AM
#45
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 391
let’s say you are on a 4 day.
day 1 -3 legs, 7 hours block
day 2 -2 legs, 5 hour of block
day 3 - 30 hour overnight
day 4 - 3 legs, 6 hours of block
with ADG you would be guaranteed an average of 5:15 per calendar day in this example you block 18 but the average of 5:15 would be 21 so the trip would pay 21 hours
with MDG you would get 5:15 minimum for each day. Since day 2 and 3 were below this, their credit would be 5:15 while still getting 7 and 6 hours pay for day 1 and 4. In this example the trip would pay 23.5 hours (7+ 5.25+ 5.25+ 6)*
*5:15=5.25
day 1 -3 legs, 7 hours block
day 2 -2 legs, 5 hour of block
day 3 - 30 hour overnight
day 4 - 3 legs, 6 hours of block
with ADG you would be guaranteed an average of 5:15 per calendar day in this example you block 18 but the average of 5:15 would be 21 so the trip would pay 21 hours
with MDG you would get 5:15 minimum for each day. Since day 2 and 3 were below this, their credit would be 5:15 while still getting 7 and 6 hours pay for day 1 and 4. In this example the trip would pay 23.5 hours (7+ 5.25+ 5.25+ 6)*
*5:15=5.25
01-09-2022, 08:59 AM
#46
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,538
Can somebody please explain to me - perhaps with sock puppets and catchy songs - the pros and cons of ADG vs MDC? The MDC people are very passionate and I do not understand. One side is all “something something, it worked really great at my regional” and the other side is “something, something our rotations and/or commutability will be even worse.”
01-09-2022, 09:00 AM
#47
Rodeo clown
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Position: Tractor seat
Posts: 703
What about giving vacation points that you can spend to buy certain vacation weeks? If I have four weeks of vacation points but don't mind taking shoulder months, maybe I can get 6 or seven seeks of actual paid time off. If I want to trade four weeks in for one week at Christmas (or pick your highly desirable vacation week), then I could do that. I think the rub that many experience WRT vacation is limited availability of desirable weeks, etc.
01-09-2022, 09:02 AM
#48
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined APC: Jun 2021
Posts: 2,306
Upside, you fill up on ALV or reserve quicker because you get crushed your work days.
01-09-2022, 09:03 AM
#49
Rodeo clown
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Position: Tractor seat
Posts: 703
That's one way to look at it. You could also ask, "How badly do company decision makers hate pilots that they are willing to flaunt bennies towards FAs, while still blaming pilots for a self-induced long-term fragile manning situation?"
01-09-2022, 09:05 AM
#50
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,681
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