Originally Posted by bsh932

The pay protection is automatic. I don't train for my AE award until the end of February, but someone junior to me converted November 1st. I saw my first increased paycheck on November 30th without doing anything. Supposedly they do an audit around the 15th of every month and determine who is entitled to pay protection.

Originally Posted by p3flteng

I fall into this category. Awarded a position on April 2021 365 day AE, and have yet to be assigned training. Projected training was Jan…but crickets so far. Several pilots junior to me are in and completing training this month, and are converting Jan 31.

I don’t know about length of training…I assume that getting paid when a junior pilot converts with similar training is when PWA 22 E 9 is in effect which would mean I am pay protected as junior pilot on same AE with same training requirements who converts before I do.

There are several people in this boat right now being held back from training who are currently NY73a, awarded ny7erA but are being held back in category I presume because of ny73a staffing shortages. (Goggles Pisano are you with me?)

My only real question is will the pay protection for us be automatic, or do I need to send some emails and shake the tree a bit for them to recognize it?
Anyone have any previous experience with this please chime in!

Originally Posted by Iceberg

Uh oh. Gonna need those mad dogs back.

Originally Posted by gloopy

I was surprised even in the chaos that they didn't keep at least a small MD90 fleet in ATL.

Could you imagine an AE where there are MD88/90 spots as a "new category"

Originally Posted by Gone Flying

as for the 717, only 156 were ever made and we already have 91 of them. we might be able to get all 91 back flying plus find a few more, but there are only so many we can get.

Originally Posted by crewdawg

I understand that, I'm not talking buying new ones, just using the ones we have. Even with a few that will forever be can birds, we still have like 20-30 that we're not using. I understand there is more to it wrt to engine/mx costs, but it's an option.

Originally Posted by gloopy

I was surprised even in the chaos that they didn't keep at least a small MD90 fleet in ATL.

Could you imagine an AE where there are MD88/90 spots as a "new category"

Originally Posted by Gone Flying

thats fair, and I hope we get as many back as is feasible, the problem then becomes once we are out of 717s, our only seemingly viable option in the 110 seat market becomes the A220. Which means if marketing wants a 110 seater on a route, it will probably be an A220. The idea that just because a plane is optimized for longer legs, that it won’t be used on short ones just does not make a whole lotta sense. (That last sentence is not geared at you, just the idea in general)

Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF

The pilots junior to you....were they awarded the same category via the same method as you? Both of you got the award via AE? or both got it via VD?

I haven't had it happen to me, but I have heard it's automatic.

Originally Posted by Iceberg

Why use a 220 when it’s geared towards long routes when you can just buy Sukhoi Superjets? New fleet type!