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Old 01-07-2022, 05:44 PM
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What’s the latest on the rumors in the early 2022 AE?


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Feb or March is what RS is saying
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Old 01-07-2022, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 170driver
Feb or March is what RS is saying
I believe his words were: "Either late Jan, or more likely in February."

Where are you getting March from?
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Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
I believe his words were: "Either late Jan, or more likely in February."

Where are you getting March from?
He’s using the BS Buffer of course. Some people think BS inflicts self imposed deadlines and misses them due to incompetence or being a slave to marketing. Wrong. He has his own secret formula of buffering his estimates.

As near as I can tell, when he references a deadline by day of the week (like AE results for example) he’s secretly referencing Pi. Take his estimate and add 3.14 days and you’ve got a pretty accurate date. When speaking in monthly terms you have to factor in the gravitational constant of the universe. Divide Pi by 9.81 and you get approximately 0.32. Add this in months to his estimate and round up to the nearest month and voila. Late February or early March. The man is a genius.
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So what are everyone’s guesses for junior captain in each base/fleet? Obviously 220/717 will trend junior, but do you think 320/737/7ER will go crazy junior?
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So what are everyone’s guesses for junior captain in each base/fleet? Obviously 220/717 will trend junior, but do you think 320/737/7ER will go crazy junior?
NYC 320 isn’t markedly more senior than 220 IIRC. With 155 jets coming over the next few years, I don’t think it’ll be that much more senior than the small narrowbodies. 737 might be about equal when the used 900s come online. I think any NYC NB A will be attainable in about 2 years. ER not included in the calculus. I also think NB A will be more junior than WB B for a good while. 765 is hard to tell, much more junior than 330, with more domestic flying, but 330 fleet will grow over the next few years and perhaps help level the gap between them seniority wise.
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Old 01-08-2022, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Bergman
So what are everyone’s guesses for junior captain in each base/fleet? Obviously 220/717 will trend junior, but do you think 320/737/7ER will go crazy junior?
On the bid last spring when 5-7 year guys were awarded 7ER Captain, the airplane was “going to be retired sooner rather than later”, and there was basically no international flying with a few small exceptions.

Both of those are now not the case. The planes are sticking around longer as a “flex fleet”, and they recently announced a decent amount of increased international.

I don’t think it will go as junior given the turn of events. Maybe I’m wrong.

The 737 is loud and uncomfortable and the 320 trips are horrendous in NYC so they’ll both vie for being junior. The A220 has vastly better trips than the 320 but for $20-25 less per hour.
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Old 01-08-2022, 09:41 AM
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On the bid last spring when 5-7 year guys were awarded 7ER Captain, the airplane was “going to be retired sooner rather than later”, and there was basically no international flying with a few small exceptions.

Both of those are now not the case. The planes are sticking around longer as a “flex fleet”, and they recently announced a decent amount of increased international.

I don’t think it will go as junior given the turn of events. Maybe I’m wrong.
You are not wrong. Those guys will get dog piled for years.
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Originally Posted by PilotBases
NYC 320 isn’t markedly more senior than 220 IIRC. With 155 jets coming over the next few years, I don’t think it’ll be that much more senior than the small narrowbodies. 737 might be about equal when the used 900s come online. I think any NYC NB A will be attainable in about 2 years. ER not included in the calculus. I also think NB A will be more junior than WB B for a good while. 765 is hard to tell, much more junior than 330, with more domestic flying, but 330 fleet will grow over the next few years and perhaps help level the gap between them seniority wise.
Itll be interesting to see with the 330 and 350 going forward if people avoid those with all the intl covid restrictions (namely Australia and asia) or if that doesn't affect bidding much. Going to Europe loses a lot of the appeal when you can't get out and enjoy the sights as much. But who knows.
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Itll be interesting to see with the 330 and 350 going forward if people avoid those with all the intl covid restrictions (namely Australia and asia) or if that doesn't affect bidding much. Going to Europe loses a lot of the appeal when you can't get out and enjoy the sights as much. But who knows.

IMO: so long as domestic flying stays as undesirable as it has been since FAR117, WB positions will continue to be relatively senior regardless of covid regs.
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Old 01-08-2022, 11:58 AM
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IMO: so long as domestic flying stays as undesirable as it has been since FAR117, WB positions will continue to be relatively senior regardless of covid regs.
That is debatable. Being stuck in the hotel days in end is getting really old. The domestic flying may be a pain but you can still go out.
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