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Old 12-21-2021, 07:53 AM
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I heard this omni variant is so bad this time youre only sitting in the middle seat, we will need 4x the capacity to meet current demand.

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Old 12-21-2021, 07:55 AM
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I heard this omni variant is so bad this time youre only sitting in the middle seat, we will need 4x the capacity to meet current demand.

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Sounds like we need 787s to ensure we keep capacity. 787s you heard it here first!
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Avros, more room in cabin to keep you from the covids
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Avros, more room in cabin to keep you from the covids
And 5 APUs to cycle the air faster.
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Old 12-21-2021, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
If they’re pulling back, it isn’t necessarily a short-term response to Omicron specifically. All the majors’ stocks are down 20-30% over the last 6 months…when the S and P is up almost 10%. Plenty of folks seem to think our outlook isn’t so rosy for the year ahead.
Really... We are pulling back our AE'S now based on stock price? I'm sorry but the S&P 500 has nothing to do with our AE and staffing needs. Where do y'all come up with this stuff? They just went public a week ago about how they expected to make a meaningful profit next year and booking data is hardly affected, we are giving out 10,000+ GS every month since March and you're talking about our stock price being down affecting our AE'S...seriously...
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Old 12-21-2021, 10:48 AM
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I heard the next ae is based off of upcoming options pricing if there are more calls than puts there will be widebody slots
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Old 12-21-2021, 11:08 AM
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No it doesn’t. I worked at another carrier where all employee groups were unionized and the company used the same old excuse.
Yeah it will never "go away" so I say we steer into the skid and educate the FA's on Scope, how they have zero of it right now, and how WE negotiate away THEIR jobs sometimes.

I also doubt the NMB will find it anywhere remotely close to the "zone of reasonableness" (or even acceptable under the law) for us to have to unofficially-officially negotiate for other labor groups that we don't represent.
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Old 12-21-2021, 11:33 AM
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Yeah it will never "go away" so I say we steer into the skid and educate the FA's on Scope, how they have zero of it right now, and how WE negotiate away THEIR jobs sometimes.

I also doubt the NMB will find it anywhere remotely close to the "zone of reasonableness" (or even acceptable under the law) for us to have to unofficially-officially negotiate for other labor groups that we don't represent.
thats the key with this. Delta chooses to give some things to FAs not other things. Theres no convincing argument to the NMB or anyone else that giving pilots something contractually is too expensive because the company usually volunteers to give that to FAs.

Bastion shouldnt have the benefits package he has because its too expensive to give to the FAs also, then?
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Old 12-21-2021, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tcco94
Really... We are pulling back our AE'S now based on stock price? I'm sorry but the S&P 500 has nothing to do with our AE and staffing needs. Where do y'all come up with this stuff? They just went public a week ago about how they expected to make a meaningful profit next year and booking data is hardly affected, we are giving out 10,000+ GS every month since March and you're talking about our stock price being down affecting our AE'S...seriously...

Sounds like you need a few dots connected for you. Is that what you’re asking for? Sometimes things correlate without having a causational relationship. Depressed stock price is not AFFECTING our AEs, and that’s not what I said.

Staffing needs are not a fixed number, as you know. There’s also no need for an AE in January to fix all staffing problems through summer 2023. They can show leak small AEs and may just do that too try to match dynamic projections. As long as we have slots for new hires, management has what they need to keep building back up. They’ve proven they don’t ever want to risk being fat (or properly manned), and we’ve proven that we can and do operationally outperform our competitors with premium pay while running well above redline. As projections for recovery ebb and flow, I’ll not be surprised to see this management team pull back and err on the side of further under-manning the operation further than it already is while continuing to hire rapidly. Stock price is underperforming the S and P because the market consensus is that we aren’t in for the quick recovery we thought we were. Stock price isn’t affecting our AE and neither is the S and P. A fickle recovery of the transportation sector, though…and particularly projections for the international travel segment…point to uncertain widebody pilot needs that the company is happy to undershoot. They’re likely also interested in beefing up the WB LCA cadre to avoid some of the OE delays we recently witnessed. Rather than one big AE with lots of widebody shots, my random guess is that the next AE might just be small with a subsequent additional AE, also small, following not much later.
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Old 12-21-2021, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Sounds like you need a few dots connected for you. Is that what you’re asking for? Sometimes things correlate without having a causational relationship. Depressed stock price is not AFFECTING our AEs, and that’s not what I said.

Staffing needs are not a fixed number, as you know. There’s also no need for an AE in January to fix all staffing problems through summer 2023. They can show leak small AEs and may just do that too try to match dynamic projections. As long as we have slots for new hires, management has what they need to keep building back up. They’ve proven they don’t ever want to risk being fat (or properly manned), and we’ve proven that we can and do operationally outperform our competitors with premium pay while running well above redline. As projections for recovery ebb and flow, I’ll not be surprised to see this management team pull back and err on the side of further under-manning the operation further than it already is while continuing to hire rapidly. Stock price is underperforming the S and P because the market consensus is that we aren’t in for the quick recovery we thought we were. Stock price isn’t affecting our AE and neither is the S and P. A fickle recovery of the transportation sector, though…and particularly projections for the international travel segment…point to uncertain widebody pilot needs that the company is happy to undershoot. They’re likely also interested in beefing up the WB LCA cadre to avoid some of the OE delays we recently witnessed. Rather than one big AE with lots of widebody shots, my random guess is that the next AE might just be small with a subsequent additional AE, also small, following not much later.
They will post AE’s to keep the sims full while they evaluate demand. That’s prudent and smart.
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