Prepare Yourselves… 2022 AEs
02-23-2022, 12:56 PM
#1171
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: 350A
Posts: 429
But half of what you would have received if you had exercised a little thought and patience. They are out of reserves and other pilots are getting GS 2, 3, 4 etc. But some guys just don’t get it.
Now I don’t mean you personally DWC, I don’t know you or your category. General statement.
Now I don’t mean you personally DWC, I don’t know you or your category. General statement.
02-23-2022, 01:08 PM
#1172
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,677
The WS or PSB of a Q trip = day off for some lucky pilot. Greedy WS pilots can help QOL.
02-23-2022, 01:21 PM
#1173
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
This. NB-A and seriously considering WB-B again now that the Covid panic is over. QOL tool bag is getting exhausted and I just got awarded 4 weeks of vacation from November to February and none are over holidays. Not happy and never see the kids due to 5 day trips and working weekends.
02-23-2022, 01:27 PM
#1174
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
The best QOL I've had was junior reserve when GS's were flowing. Rolling Thunder (modified to my specifications...I declined many) and a bank full of PB days can often be achieved with as little as 1 month of hustle. After which you can do less than you'd do anyway, get paid a lot more and get similar or even MORE time at home for the rest of the year.
As a line holder, every day of GS is 2 days you can drop and not lose any pay. Or drop 1 for 1 and still come out on top for pay.
02-23-2022, 02:17 PM
#1175
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,704
I get this. I'm a big QOL proponent. But its often overlooked that GS's can be used not just for the money but for added QOL.
The best QOL I've had was junior reserve when GS's were flowing. Rolling Thunder (modified to my specifications...I declined many) and a bank full of PB days can often be achieved with as little as 1 month of hustle. After which you can do less than you'd do anyway, get paid a lot more and get similar or even MORE time at home for the rest of the year.
As a line holder, every day of GS is 2 days you can drop and not lose any pay. Or drop 1 for 1 and still come out on top for pay.
The best QOL I've had was junior reserve when GS's were flowing. Rolling Thunder (modified to my specifications...I declined many) and a bank full of PB days can often be achieved with as little as 1 month of hustle. After which you can do less than you'd do anyway, get paid a lot more and get similar or even MORE time at home for the rest of the year.
As a line holder, every day of GS is 2 days you can drop and not lose any pay. Or drop 1 for 1 and still come out on top for pay.
02-23-2022, 06:20 PM
#1176
seeing the large hubs...
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: 73N A
Posts: 3,763
That only works if the GS calls are on days you're not working... which if you're junior, is often the weekend. And weekends tend to be when the GS go out so... not available for you, even though you might want them. Oh, and you can't swap easily because of well, the same staffing problem that's bringing the GS. There's a reason the #2, #3 and #4 GS seem to always hit the senior pilots, it's not lack of desire by the junior pilots.
02-23-2022, 06:41 PM
#1177
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Posts: 5,897
Why others decide to WS vs GS is a little thing I like to call noneyo business.
02-23-2022, 07:29 PM
#1178
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Joined APC: Nov 2020
Position: Enoch Powell Enthusiast
Posts: 2,323
Reasonably certain that one can build a one or two day “perfect trip” by being extremely specific on WS parameters.
Would I prefer a two day+ GS? Sure. Way too junior, so it’s not going to happen.
Why not collect 10.5 for a fly out one night, deadhead back the next day (preferably deviating early)?
Would I prefer a two day+ GS? Sure. Way too junior, so it’s not going to happen.
Why not collect 10.5 for a fly out one night, deadhead back the next day (preferably deviating early)?
02-23-2022, 08:28 PM
#1179
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,660
But half of what you would have received if you had exercised a little thought and patience. They are out of reserves and other pilots are getting GS 2, 3, 4 etc. But some guys just don’t get it.
Now I don’t mean you personally DWC, I don’t know you or your category. General statement.
Now I don’t mean you personally DWC, I don’t know you or your category. General statement.
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02-24-2022, 06:18 AM
#1180
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 10,571
The PWA says that trip is my OBWS before it's your GS. Learn to live with that. My QOL comes first and if I can't fix the schedule with 15% of the system flying, I'm more than happy to widen the aperture to 100%.
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