Uniforms
#461
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Joined APC: Sep 2021
Posts: 274
#464
For what? Enforcing our FOM required uniform policy? We all make 6 figures. Wear the uniform like required and there will be no issues. And packable light black jacket for walk around’s is a no go. That’s precisely what FO was wearing when LCA came to cockpit and chewed us both out about. The FO for not wearing an approved uniform and me for not enforcing the policy. If you tools have an issue take it up with your chief pilots and see how well that goes over. Now back to eating your fruit loops.
Look, I know you’re still bitter about that FO calling in fatigued on that JAX turn, but relax a little.
#466
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Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 217
Just because jackets are no longer required doesn’t mean you can wear whatever you want on walk around. If you choose to not bring your jacket and it’s 20 degrees somewhere then plan on wearing your short sleeve shirt. I’ve had several FO’S over the years bring sweater (not even black) and light jackets to wear. No go. Don’t put me in that position to have to act like your dad and tell you what you can’t wear. It’s not that hard.
#467
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,999
I am all for looking professional in front of customers, and I am all for common sense. If it is bone chilling cold outside, I am going to wear my jacket to keep warm, it’s Personal safety. If you don’t approve, you can do the walk around or find someone else to fly with you.
#468
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Road construction signholder
Posts: 2,433
And here’s a little secret: no one is even looking out the windows, except perhaps little Johnny…and his view is blurry because he just licked the glass. When folks look away from their phones to come up for air for 60 seconds max - they don’t even perceive the outside world, much less care what some knucklehead outside is wearing.
The percentage of pax completely content to look at their phones from pushback to arrival, never once lifting their window shades to peer outside briefly, even for takeoff or landing, is probably 90+% these days.
#469
For what? Enforcing our FOM required uniform policy? We all make 6 figures. Wear the uniform like required and there will be no issues. And packable light black jacket for walk around’s is a no go. That’s precisely what FO was wearing when LCA came to cockpit and chewed us both out about. The FO for not wearing an approved uniform and me for not enforcing the policy. If you tools have an issue take it up with your chief pilots and see how well that goes over. Now back to eating your fruit loops.
#470
Just because jackets are no longer required doesn’t mean you can wear whatever you want on walk around. If you choose to not bring your jacket and it’s 20 degrees somewhere then plan on wearing your short sleeve shirt. I’ve had several FO’S over the years bring sweater (not even black) and light jackets to wear. No go. Don’t put me in that position to have to act like your dad and tell you what you can’t wear. It’s not that hard.
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