tennisguru

It’s the same rules. People incorrectly think that it’s a set time of 1000 as long as it’s on your schedule no later than 1500 the day before, but actually coming off any x day you can be assigned a trip reporting as early as 10 hours after the start of LC as long as it’s on your schedule no later than 9 hours before the start of LC. So the 1000/1500 works if your LC starts right at midnight as it traditionally does. However PB/PR will throw this off, as well as a assigned 30 hour rest. So if your PR ends at 0604, you can be assigned a trip (or SC) reporting as early as 1604 (10 hours), as long as they put it on your schedule by 2104 (9 hours prior to LC) the night prior.

Rooster435

Thanks for the quick answer. Guess I’m working tomorrow.

CX500T

DWC answered the question but I'll do numbers (I'm on a PR day today) to translate from contract-ese/

I did a 2 Day GS that interrupted 1 X day. I blocked in at 2116 on the 20th.
Per the PWA, I am owed a full PB day for each X day interrupted for a GS / IA (it's different for late ops)
That PB day starts 9 hours after release.
S0, 2146 release on the 20th + 9 hours = 0646 on the 21st my 24 H starts. This gets confusing to some because the 21st shows PB on the schedule and PR on the 22nd.
My PR ends at 0646 on the 22nd.

IF the trip is on my schedule (protip, I go in icrew about this time and screen shot that schedule, it's the "real" not Micrew and has a to the second time stamp) 9 hours prior to the Partial ending (in this case, 2146 on the 21st) I can be assigned a trip or SC starting NET than end of PR+10 hours.
So, for today, they could have given me a trip or SC as long as it started 1646 or later, if it was on my schedule by 2146 last night. If nothing on schedule at 2147, the earliest you can report/start SC is end of PR + 12 hours, so in my case, 1846 tonight, since nothing was on my schedule last night by 2146.

That said, I did have to call CS and quote chapter and verse that GS/IA interrupting X day is relase plus 9, not to the minute like late ops.

Not an ALPA schedule guru, but have become fairly well versed in reserve rules. Feel free to PM me if you are worried about posting trips, release times, etc, and I can usually drive you to the relevcant PWA section/line/etc and who to call to fix it.

I once said the PWA might as well be written in Greek.. My wife went "I read greek and it confuses the hell out of me"

crewdawg

Common misconception, but you can. Learned that you can do that from Heiko K.

notEnuf

Somebody get his notes. I heard he's retiring or maybe did already.

FangsF15

I guess if you have a long-ish Res block touching the end/beginning of a bid period? I could swear I’ve been denied before with the oft-mentioned “violates reaerve offday groupings”mid month.

Gspeed

He already did.

notEnuf

DALPA should hire him as a scheduling consultant. We’ve spent our money on worse.

BCan

I was denied for this reason on a pre-20th January PCS request. I had two X-day groups and I couldn’t get the request through unless I moved an entire block. What’s the secret? And…if these notes are good…I pay in Whiskey.

crewdawg

PWA 12.M.8.d Exception 2

I have to laugh at that reference because it points to the absurdly complicated nature of our PWA. Heck, there is an exception 2 to the exception 2.