GogglesPisano

So the consensus seems to be that a RES pilot must check his schedule under 3 scenarios:

1) After block-in
2) After 9 hours prior to the end of his last X-day (CS may or may not call when LC begins.)
3) After 9 hours prior to the end of his 30-hr rest. (There could be a rotation at 30.1 hours.)

notEnuf

Almost.......

d. will be notified of his assignment to open time under Section 23 N. or O. by one of
the following two methods:
1) telephone contact from Crew Scheduling.
2) electronic placement of a rotation or conversion to short call that is placed on his
schedule prior to:
a) his release from a rotation, or
b) nine hours before the end of his last non-fly day (other than a vacation day)
before an on-call day.

However.......

Note: A pilot is responsible for ascertaining whether he has been assigned a rotation or converted to short call under Section 23 S. 3. d. 2) b). Crew Scheduling is not required to make telephone contact for such an assignment or conversion.

And.......

e. will not be required to remain available for contact in the 12 hours prior to the scheduled report of an assigned rotation.



You are notified when the placement is done on the non-fly day but when you check it is up to you. I wait until the RAP starts because the 12 hours prior to report is more than enough for me. (in base so when I come back to civilization I'm close to home and work)

tennisguru

Point #3 is wrong. There could be a rotation at 30 hours + 10 hours. If it is not on there by 9 hours prior to the 30 hours ending then the earliest they can make you report coming off your 30 hour rest is 12 hours after your LC starts. It’s the exact same rules as #2. A 30 hour rest break guarantees a minimum of 40 hours before you could first be required to report.

neodd

See above. Can’t be a rotation at 30.1, otherwise you’d effectively be on long call at 18 hours into your rest, that’s not very restful. The 30 hours is sacred.

CBreezy

To clarify: 9 hour prior is the latest they can add flying if the report is going to be between 10 and 11:59 hours on the first x day after a non-fly day.

notEnuf

True, but after the 9 prior they have to call and issue rest prior, and you don't go on call until midnight or when RAP starts. Also if the trip starts later in the RAP there's duty time considerations. (e.) above still applies.

GogglesPisano

This is how I've always interpreted it. If you are on rest you are effectively on the dark side of the moon, hiking the Himalayas, off the grid. With no obligation whatsoever to the Company.

So allow me to rephrase my statement:

The two scenarios where a RES pilot must check his schedule are:

1) After block-in.
2) When beginning LC after ending an X-day or a 30 hour rest. Then a rotation must begin no earlier than 12 hours later (or 10 if placed prior to -9)

BCan

On reserve, I received 8 hours of pay under the 4F1C code - company connivence.

It was on an X-day. My best guess is that I was incorrectly bypassed for a green slip, but I cannot be 100% sure.

On my time card, I have 8 hours of pay AND credit for the 4F1C. Is this correct? With the time under credit...seems like it goes toward the res guarantee...which doesn't really add any benefit?

SabreDriver

8 hours sounds like you have been removed from two days of training, if it was pay and credit, green slip would be pay, no credit.


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sailingfun

A green slip that no ops or is dropped for any reason becomes pay and credit.