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Old 02-09-2022, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Nothing at Delta pays 150%. Green slip on reserve pays ‘single pay’/100% above guarantee. So, if Reserve Guarantee is 72 hours, and you fly a 2-day GS, you will get 10:30 pay above the 72, for a total of 82:30, plus PB days as earlier described.

Lineholders get single pay for the rotation guarantee, plus single pay for what is actually flown. It’s often described as 200%, but it’s more nuanced than that. And, they must also have a minimum of 65 hours of credit in the month, and GS don’t count toward that credit.
Caveat: you get single pay above guarantee for what you fly on x-days. No rig applies here if your GS goes into reserve days.
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Nothing at Delta pays 150%. Green slip on reserve pays ‘single pay’/100% above guarantee. So, if Reserve Guarantee is 72 hours, and you fly a 2-day GS, you will get 10:30 pay above the 72, for a total of 82:30, plus PB days as earlier described.

Lineholders get single pay for the rotation guarantee, plus single pay for what is actually flown. It’s often described as 200%, but it’s more nuanced than that. And, they must also have a minimum of 65 hours of credit in the month, and GS don’t count toward that credit.
i think it’s ALV -5 not to exceed 72 hrs
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Caveat: you get single pay above guarantee for what you fly on x-days. No rig applies here if your GS goes into reserve days.
True. And to add to that, expect for DH credit, all credit is paid on the final day, which if is a Res day will go toward Res guar. And for anyone really getting into nuances, if your report for a FDP is on an off day, converted to pilot base time, that entire FDP pays above guarantee, even if it flies into an x-day. Sometimes a redeye may pay above if it reports early enough going into a Res day. Confused yet, new hires? 😂


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i think it’s ALV -5 not to exceed 72 hrs
LOA 20-04 lowered it to the lesser of ALV-5 or 72 hours. I hastily used what was on my time card this month, and then got that wrong. This month it was 67. My apologies.
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DH credit and Duty credit (1:2) pay on the day flown. Trip rig and ADG pay on the last day.
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
True. And to add to that, expect for DH credit, all credit is paid on the final day, which if is a Res day will go toward Res guar. And for anyone really getting into nuances, if your report for a FDP is on an off day, converted to pilot base time, that entire FDP pays above guarantee, even if it flies into an x-day. Sometimes a redeye may pay above if it reports early enough going into a Res day. Confused yet, new hires? 😂




LOA 20-04 lowered it to the lesser of ALV-5 or 72 hours. I hastily used what was on my time card this month, and then got that wrong. This month it was 67. My apologies.
Thank you so much for pointing out that this phenomenon applies here. I got burned pretty good on it for sick leave fly-back. I won’t be fooled when I bid reserve for the summer.
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So ATL73NB lately has been giving weekend coverage awards on reserve. The categories seem to be changing quite a bit next month because all of the base swaps from the October AE AND some of the swaps from the February AE are happening. So almost 28% of the category is going to be on reserve in April (RLL of 302 with 418 bidders) and there is an extra X day.

But the ALV is 84.

Should we expect to see weekend coverage awards? Should we expect to see them, but not go so far up the list?

How about green slips? It doesnt seem conducive to rolling thunder, but at the same time ATL open time turnover is a completely different animal than most others.

Thanks for any insight, even if only anecdotal.
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Originally Posted by flyinthrew
So ATL73NB lately has been giving weekend coverage awards on reserve. The categories seem to be changing quite a bit next month because all of the base swaps from the October AE AND some of the swaps from the February AE are happening. So almost 28% of the category is going to be on reserve in April (RLL of 302 with 418 bidders) and there is an extra X day.

But the ALV is 84.

Should we expect to see weekend coverage awards? Should we expect to see them, but not go so far up the list?

How about green slips? It doesnt seem conducive to rolling thunder, but at the same time ATL open time turnover is a completely different animal than most others.

Thanks for any insight, even if only anecdotal.
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Reserve has no guarantee of weekends off, only the #1 reserve will get them for sure and who knows who that will be.
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
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Reserve has no guarantee of weekends off, only the #1 reserve will get them for sure and who knows who that will be.

I'll be the first to admit it's special circumstances, but even that isn't always the case. I've seen a few instances where even the number 1 reserve bidder got coverage while a junior reserve bidder didn't. It's pretty jacked up, but it happens. Our reserve coverage language could use some serious work, as could some reserve protections.

That said, if you live in base, reserve at DAL is pretty dang good. In some categories, being too junior to hold a reserve line is occasionally a thing. If your category is severely understaffed, then the GS game is a player. If GS aren't flowing, then you're likely not close to being used every day. I'm not going to go down the "days off/not worked" road, everyone has their views on that. But my life is relatively flexible and you live within SC range, the reserve life ain't that bad.
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Originally Posted by flyinthrew
So ATL73NB lately has been giving weekend coverage awards on reserve. The categories seem to be changing quite a bit next month because all of the base swaps from the October AE AND some of the swaps from the February AE are happening. So almost 28% of the category is going to be on reserve in April (RLL of 302 with 418 bidders) and there is an extra X day.

But the ALV is 84.

Should we expect to see weekend coverage awards? Should we expect to see them, but not go so far up the list?

How about green slips? It doesnt seem conducive to rolling thunder, but at the same time ATL open time turnover is a completely different animal than most others.

Thanks for any insight, even if only anecdotal.
I don’t know the ALV history of your category but a high ALV in a overmanned category is usually one of two things. The category might be overmanned in one base but short in others or the ALV has been running low and they have to meet the min contractual requirements.
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