Reserve for Dummies
#371
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2010
Posts: 609
Perhaps not the right thread, but I'm a dummy.
Who has commuted for reserves for 3-4 day blocks and stayed in a crash pad? Did you do multiple or single occupancy?
I ask because I'm not sure how I'd sleep with 6-7 dudes entering/exiting the room at all hours of the day, even with earplugs. It's just asking for poor sleep. Then again, single occupancy is pricey.
What are some ways you mitigated the lodging challenges when working reserve?
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Who has commuted for reserves for 3-4 day blocks and stayed in a crash pad? Did you do multiple or single occupancy?
I ask because I'm not sure how I'd sleep with 6-7 dudes entering/exiting the room at all hours of the day, even with earplugs. It's just asking for poor sleep. Then again, single occupancy is pricey.
What are some ways you mitigated the lodging challenges when working reserve?
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#372
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Joined APC: Jun 2021
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I am not a commuter, but perhaps I have something to offer.
If you are not familiar with a yellow slip (YS), it is a preference to fly. That is one way to avoid a crash pad or hotel. You can YS specific rotations (trips), or you can put in a blanket YS with some qualifiers.
Important info follows!!! If you put in a blanket YS saying “I want to fly when I am on call,” it is imperative that you put in a no report before xxxx preference in the template, ESPECIALLY if it is your first day of availability after a day off. Normally you could not get an assignment before 1000 base time on your first day (or 1200 base time if your on call day follows a vacation day), but if you neglect to put in a specific time on a blanket YS, you waive your ten hour rest requirement and can be assigned a 0500 report on your first on call day (which might be 0200 to your body).
^That info might have been shared earlier in this thread. If so, IMHO, it is worth repeating.
If you are not familiar with a yellow slip (YS), it is a preference to fly. That is one way to avoid a crash pad or hotel. You can YS specific rotations (trips), or you can put in a blanket YS with some qualifiers.
Important info follows!!! If you put in a blanket YS saying “I want to fly when I am on call,” it is imperative that you put in a no report before xxxx preference in the template, ESPECIALLY if it is your first day of availability after a day off. Normally you could not get an assignment before 1000 base time on your first day (or 1200 base time if your on call day follows a vacation day), but if you neglect to put in a specific time on a blanket YS, you waive your ten hour rest requirement and can be assigned a 0500 report on your first on call day (which might be 0200 to your body).
^That info might have been shared earlier in this thread. If so, IMHO, it is worth repeating.
#373
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 391
Perhaps not the right thread, but I'm a dummy.
Who has commuted for reserves for 3-4 day blocks and stayed in a crash pad? Did you do multiple or single occupancy?
I ask because I'm not sure how I'd sleep with 6-7 dudes entering/exiting the room at all hours of the day, even with earplugs. It's just asking for poor sleep. Then again, single occupancy is pricey.
What are some ways you mitigated the lodging challenges when working reserve?
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Who has commuted for reserves for 3-4 day blocks and stayed in a crash pad? Did you do multiple or single occupancy?
I ask because I'm not sure how I'd sleep with 6-7 dudes entering/exiting the room at all hours of the day, even with earplugs. It's just asking for poor sleep. Then again, single occupancy is pricey.
What are some ways you mitigated the lodging challenges when working reserve?
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#374
Perhaps not the right thread, but I'm a dummy.
Who has commuted for reserves for 3-4 day blocks and stayed in a crash pad? Did you do multiple or single occupancy?
I ask because I'm not sure how I'd sleep with 6-7 dudes entering/exiting the room at all hours of the day, even with earplugs. It's just asking for poor sleep. Then again, single occupancy is pricey.
What are some ways you mitigated the lodging challenges when working reserve?
Who has commuted for reserves for 3-4 day blocks and stayed in a crash pad? Did you do multiple or single occupancy?
I ask because I'm not sure how I'd sleep with 6-7 dudes entering/exiting the room at all hours of the day, even with earplugs. It's just asking for poor sleep. Then again, single occupancy is pricey.
What are some ways you mitigated the lodging challenges when working reserve?
Some pilot use AirBNB to get a room when they need one, seems like you're sharing the house with the owner or whatever (you're not getting the place to yourself at lower price points) , but not noisy and seems to work well. In NY, you wouldn't need a car. Hotels in the NYC area are pricey - in other bases people either get a inexpensive room with late checkout, or try and Yellow Slip (request trips) to fly.
#375
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
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Who has commuted for reserves for 3-4 day blocks and stayed in a crash pad? Did you do multiple or single occupancy?
I ask because I'm not sure how I'd sleep with 6-7 dudes entering/exiting the room at all hours of the day, even with earplugs. It's just asking for poor sleep. Then again, single occupancy is pricey.
I ask because I'm not sure how I'd sleep with 6-7 dudes entering/exiting the room at all hours of the day, even with earplugs. It's just asking for poor sleep. Then again, single occupancy is pricey.
Kew > anywhere else for most fleets most of the time, all things equal.
Mainline/pilot only > everyone pad, all things equal.
Two bathrooms isn't twice as good as one; its 100 times better.
Obviously there are exceptions to these as well as potentially mitigating circumstances.
The over all vibe of a pad is probably the single greatest factor and is hard to quantify until after the fact. The only way is to either try it out (usually for a month or two) or get a good rec from someone you know and who understands what you're asking.
Don't stress about the price; a good one is worth a little extra. However IMO single occupancy isn't worth the substantial premium. Quiet, respectful pad mates and cold AC (plus earplugs and eye covers) are often a more solid sleep opportunity than being at home with stomping screaming kids, barking dogs, phones ringing and the constant temptation to take care of just one more minor chore right before/after bed.
Cold AC and warm blankets plus blankets hung on the sides of a bunk have yielded the most solid sleep I've ever had especially in situations that were otherwise jacked up circadian wise. Location comes into play for the times you're there (planned or unplanned) as its nice to have numerous sit down and take out places, hang outs, grocery store(s), cleaners, safe walking/jogging etc. The ease of being effectively equal distance from JFK and LGA give you lots of options both coming and going, both for work reports and commuting. Lots of transportation options as well.
The area also has a close by train station where you can begin the long, arduous trek to EWR (which should be it's own base but that's another topic). Even then, sometimes with known early reports to EWR, you may be better served just getting a cheap crew rate room near the airport anyway.
You will spend money coming and going, as well as to stay there. There is no way around that. You will get burned on commutes from time to time. Things will "melt down" from time to time and you could find yourself there for days. Having a good pad with options is worth the price and being in the middle of the two legit co-terminals (LGA and JFK) is a no brainer for most fleets most of the time. If you're on a true widebody fleet, then some of the otherwise less appealing JFK pads may begin to make more sense for you, but you'll still need to take commuting options into account. Plenty of ex-JFK padders switch to Kew for that very reason.
If you are a very light sleeper, then maybe single room is for you. But it will cost a lot more. The nightly ala carte approach works the best financially once you get some seniority...unitl it doesn't. But it usually does. Hotels are not only pricey but tend to sell out when you need them the most. IMO a good pad is a must on reserve and as a junior lineholder. Even past that point I'd carry one as insurance. These days with the "optimizer" destroying NB rotations and RR's being more common, even once top seniority tiers are effectively "junior" as far as pairing quality and commutability are concerned.
#377
You can do that via a Yellow slip. It just counts toward your reserve guarantee, so it only pays "on top" if you've already flown enough to hit reserve guarantee for the month. As far as a limit, I would assume you'd be limited by ALV+15, but I've never even considered that.
#378
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,518
No. You cannot pick up. You can volunteer on days off but you go below line holders and on call reserves. It only goes toward reserve guarantee
#379
You also get payback days, which start 9 hours after release plus 24 hours for each day off interrupted (X-day/PB/TOFF). There is no limit, other than FAR limits, but you can’t get #2 until every other eligible pilot with a GS request in has turned down their first. It’s a way to balance GS across the seniority spectrum.
#380
Lineholders get single pay for the rotation guarantee, plus single pay for what is actually flown. It’s often described as 200%, but it’s more nuanced than that. And, they must also have a minimum of 65 hours of credit in the month, and GS don’t count toward that credit.
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