Reserve for Dummies
12-15-2021, 06:06 AM
#331
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2021
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Either you’re calculating something wrong or the category is way understaffed and the entire reserve group is getting tagged with weekend coverage awards. Are you looking at the Reasons report to see how those people are actually bidding?
Im NYC73NB. Finished IOE in early November. I have all weekends off except holiday weekends. I used the PCS process to get Thanksgiving and the day before off.
Your pay situation sounds like you might have good seniority at an LCC. Good luck choosing.
Im NYC73NB. Finished IOE in early November. I have all weekends off except holiday weekends. I used the PCS process to get Thanksgiving and the day before off.
Your pay situation sounds like you might have good seniority at an LCC. Good luck choosing.
12-15-2021, 06:21 AM
#332
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined APC: Jun 2021
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A lot of people who are reserve, heck a lot of pilots period, commute to NYC. Generally speaking, I know people have different bid strategies, but in order to just get it over with people try and group their days together. Some even all in one block. You can’t always assume to know what they are bidding unless you look at the reasons report. Then you know how senior you have to be IOT get the time off you really want.
12-15-2021, 07:02 AM
#333
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
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In the end, on basically every NYC fleet, but especially the 220, if you want weekends off on reserve you can have that within 1-2 months of finishing training. The Jan awards should be out today and that will give a much cleaner picture of where things stand without a holiday to really jack things around.
12-15-2021, 07:07 AM
#334
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2015
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I mean if you go back up just one page there are like 4 other people also holding the non-Christmas weekends off. So every individual around them could have held weekends off if they had chosen to bid for them. Honestly I'll bet a good number of people don't even really know how to bid properly yet and just didn't put in for the weekends off. And yes, for commuters to NYC many times people will put their reserve days into 1-2 large chunks to minimize the number of times they have to commute up and back, even if that means having to work some weekends. Others due to kids/spouse's job/whatever prefer to work the weekends and have the middle of the weeks off.
In the end, on basically every NYC fleet, but especially the 220, if you want weekends off on reserve you can have that within 1-2 months of finishing training. The Jan awards should be out today and that will give a much cleaner picture of where things stand without a holiday to really jack things around.
In the end, on basically every NYC fleet, but especially the 220, if you want weekends off on reserve you can have that within 1-2 months of finishing training. The Jan awards should be out today and that will give a much cleaner picture of where things stand without a holiday to really jack things around.
Last edited by notEnuf; 12-15-2021 at 07:18 AM.
12-15-2021, 07:10 AM
#335
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
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8 day reserve stretches give you more bang for the bid. 5.75 days on long call is all you can do for 30/168. that means day 6 and maybe a portion of day 7 is rest and with a 12 hour call following rest days 7 is useless and day 8 at noon you are done with hard X days following.
But generally with smart yellow-slipping strategy you should be able to avoid that if you want to. Plus, how many 30 hour layovers do we even have any more domestically? I see way more trips with 10-11-10 than anything with 30...
12-15-2021, 07:15 AM
#336
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2015
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That strategy works great right up until they give you a trip with a 30-hour rest in it..
But generally with smart yellow-slipping strategy you should be able to avoid that if you want to. Plus, how many 30 hour layovers do we even have any more domestically? I see way more trips with 10-11-10 than anything with 30...
But generally with smart yellow-slipping strategy you should be able to avoid that if you want to. Plus, how many 30 hour layovers do we even have any more domestically? I see way more trips with 10-11-10 than anything with 30...
Last edited by notEnuf; 12-15-2021 at 07:29 AM.
12-15-2021, 10:23 AM
#337
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2007
Position: Fairly local
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Originally Posted by reservelyfe;[url=tel:3336055
3336055[/url]]Ok. I see that person now. But a bunch of people above them with multiple separate blocks of reserve are working weekends. Are they just choosing to do this because there's some advantage to it on reserve?
12-15-2021, 02:13 PM
#338
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
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Haven't started yet, but I'm able to see the bid awards. A big hangup for me coming to Delta is that I'm involved in something that's important to me, that often requires some weekend availability. My experience at my current airline is that I was able to get weekends pretty quickly on reserve. It looks like NYC220B might offer the quickest seniority, so that's what I hope to bid.
In looking at the NYC220B bid awards and doing a widgetseniority calculation, it looks like it'll take a couple years to get weekends on reserve, and maybe four years with a line. Once the awards come out, is coverage ever good enough to PD a weekend or swap days around to open up a weekend on reserve? The money is less important, so I'd probably be using every tool available to clear up those weekends.
It'll take about nine years to make up my income at current pay rates (not interested in WB because of sleep issues). That plus the loss of weekends is making me wonder if this is the right choice.
In looking at the NYC220B bid awards and doing a widgetseniority calculation, it looks like it'll take a couple years to get weekends on reserve, and maybe four years with a line. Once the awards come out, is coverage ever good enough to PD a weekend or swap days around to open up a weekend on reserve? The money is less important, so I'd probably be using every tool available to clear up those weekends.
It'll take about nine years to make up my income at current pay rates (not interested in WB because of sleep issues). That plus the loss of weekends is making me wonder if this is the right choice.
12-15-2021, 04:35 PM
#339
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Update: Jan NYC 220B, most junior pilot holding every weekend of the month off is 12660, a Nov 2 hire. Almost everyone on every page junior to that is coming right off training and in their shadow period. So basically you can hold weekends off on your first full month after finishing training. Worst case it would be your second month.
Outstanding. Hadn’t see January yet. A much better sample than Nov and Dec w holidays.
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12-23-2021, 07:07 PM
#340
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 89
Hypothetically you got 3 days of reserve and get a 2 day gs that starts on first day of reserve before 10 am... I am very sure I get no pay back days since none of the trips fall on my days off but I feel confident I get premium day for the first day (straight pay over guarantee). How is this supposed to be coded so I get the premium pay on the time card? Thanks in advance. I plan on calling the schedulers but would like to have knowledge of how this should work first 100%
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