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10-28-2024, 05:39 PM
#2091
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
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On a related note can they extend your short call past its original time to give you a trip? Say for example you’re on SC from 1300-1900 and then they give you a trip with a 2000 report. They would have to extend the SC to 2000 otherwise it wouldn’t be legal. Can they do that?
10-28-2024, 05:41 PM
#2092
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
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On a related note can they extend your short call past its original time to give you a trip? Say for example you’re on SC from 1300-1900 and then they give you a trip with a 2000 report. They would have to extend the SC to 2000 otherwise it wouldn’t be legal. Can they do that?
however, I don’t believe that extending a short call then running a TC to identify you as a SC has been litigated.
the PWA states a SC pilot will remain on short call for a period that does not exceed 12 hours.
my personal belief is that we consider the assigned short call to be un extendable.
tennisguru provided SRH ref but basically…
In a 1000-1900 SC a 1901 rotation report would not be legal.
10-28-2024, 06:22 PM
#2093
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 1,065
given the way you’ve described the scenario, no. You would not have been identified as a short call pilot for that trip. You would have come up as a long call pilot but ineligible due to FAR required rest.
however, I don’t believe that extending a short call then running a TC to identify you as a SC has been litigated.
the PWA states a SC pilot will remain on short call for a period that does not exceed 12 hours.
my personal belief is that we consider the assigned short call to be un extendable.
tennisguru provided SRH ref but basically…
In a 1000-1900 SC a 1901 rotation report would not be legal.
however, I don’t believe that extending a short call then running a TC to identify you as a SC has been litigated.
the PWA states a SC pilot will remain on short call for a period that does not exceed 12 hours.
my personal belief is that we consider the assigned short call to be un extendable.
tennisguru provided SRH ref but basically…
In a 1000-1900 SC a 1901 rotation report would not be legal.
10-28-2024, 06:38 PM
#2094
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2022
Posts: 170
sorry I missed this…
you can’t get the short call removed… if they did the rotation is an illegal assignment. Look at 23M6b. If your SC is removed you’re not on SC status at time of report… so you’d not be the appropriate pilot/step of trip coverage for the rotation.
you can’t get the short call removed… if they did the rotation is an illegal assignment. Look at 23M6b. If your SC is removed you’re not on SC status at time of report… so you’d not be the appropriate pilot/step of trip coverage for the rotation.
10-29-2024, 06:42 AM
#2095
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 200
sorry I missed this…
you can’t get the short call removed… if they did the rotation is an illegal assignment. Look at 23M6b. If your SC is removed you’re not on SC status at time of report… so you’d not be the appropriate pilot/step of trip coverage for the rotation.
you can’t get the short call removed… if they did the rotation is an illegal assignment. Look at 23M6b. If your SC is removed you’re not on SC status at time of report… so you’d not be the appropriate pilot/step of trip coverage for the rotation.
10-29-2024, 07:19 AM
#2097
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10-29-2024, 09:46 AM
#2098
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10-29-2024, 01:28 PM
#2099
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