StartngOvr

Good grief. It’s short call, not an air raid siren. If reserve really has you that worried, it’s possible you made a poor career choice.

TALPAtalker

As far as I am aware, we are not released from SC obligation when a rotation is placed on our schedule. This is the case 24 hours prior to the trip while on LC, but not SC.

tennisguru

I’m not talking about being released from your obligation, but if you self-acknowledge a SC rotation assignment then scheduling does not need to call you and wake you up in order to notify you. As always, if they later change their mind and want you to operate a different rotation you are still contactable once SC starts.

raisins

I love sleeping thru my short call. It’s a glorious feeling waking up and realizing I am no longer on call. The annoying calls are the 0600 rest assignments on your last day.

80knotsV1rotate

Seriously, I've never seen so much anxiety from short call. Meanwhile I sleep just fine. This forum really brings out the strangest.

Jughead135

Correct.

23.S.9. A short call pilot [b.] must be promptly available for contact by Crew Scheduling during their short call period until [… 2)] their departure to report for an awarded/assigned rotation.

notEnuf

This is correct but the SC RAP start time starts the clock and you must be notified of SC 18 hours in advance and be assigned rest prior to short call of at least 10 hours. My rest has been 18 hours between consecutive SCs. If you are on rest, then you have no obligation and contact can invalidate the rest. Effectively I have 10-18 hours (22 hours on day 1 notification) free from duty and 18 hours when assigned the same SC on the second day.

DryClutch

I think they are doing all these SC's now to make everyone contactable since with an 18hr leash I guess it's harder to snatch guys for trips. The 2359 SC window, highly doubt they will call you at 0100 for a 0300 show. They just want the max number of guys readily contactable for trips. Had that happen a lot to me, ill get a SC sit assigned, and then magically an hour later, a trip pops up that they might not have otherwise been able to snag me for.

And I find it hard to go in ICrew and do the math on all the reserves avail to see if a particular trip was actually supposed to go to me or not. That guy needs OE finished, the other one is 30-7, etc. I can't see all that. Heck I called in fatigued recently, for a SC. Not a trip, but just a SC sit. Granted I did it to myself with a long stretch of RSV days for family stuff, but after working 11 of 13 days, and then a SC on day 14. Negative. The schedule was all legal but the fatigue was real. I have no idea how much money they seem to be saving by handing out a few less GS's, but it's definately coming at the price of QOL, especiallty for the commuters on reserve. I don't commute so reserve still works for me, but i'd imagine it sucks to commute in to sit 4 consecutive SC's and not be used.

Apejackson

I think the angst about the 2359 and acknowledging the trip as soon as you see it is to avoid being woken up by the notification for the trip you seen since 6pm. If you don’t acknowledge ahead of time, you get a 0000 phone call and sometimes closer to actual report. That wake up call throws me off and my sleep suffers. If I acknowledge earlier I don’t have to worry about that call anymore and set my alarm appropriately. If something else pops where they want to change the trips they’ll have to call then and at that time we can determine fitness for duty.

I’ve had to call fatigue for a SC period recently as well. It’s getting pretty ridiculous with how many they’re assigning and if I was a commuter unable to get off reserve, I’d be ****ed. Luckily, same as you, I’m local so I sit SC from home and go about my normal day. A lot of times, I’ll take my family out to dinner during the SC period and Delta has now picked up the tab.

Edit - Also, iCrew sucks. It’s terrible. I know I harass scheduling way more times than I should trying to figure out why I got called for a trip when there’s 6 people junior to me. So much that it’s either impossible to sift through the information or we just don’t have access to it.

FangsF15

I got a SC notification call at 0200 for a trip which reported at 0700. I did not get back to sleep quickly, and called fatigued at 0500. They now had to scramble to get someone there on time. That was 100% CS's fault for foolishly calling 5 hours before report needlessly. They never learn.

Don't be afraid to call fatigued, please. There are robust protections for you, and we should never feel pressure to make it work when the company is the one who is putting you in that situation in the first place.